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Re: The Football

Post by Modern Antiquarian » Wed Aug 18, 2010 20:01

Wheatabeat wrote:
And he's still a cock as far as I'm concerned. A massive cock.
edit - think that the "cock" was directed at Redknapp not Bellamy, I'm not sure what 'arry has done for war torn Sierra Leone though.

It's Bono syndrome - eminantly hateable but by any measure has saved more lives and done more concrete good in the world than I could ever hope to. There should be a word for someone like that - its a sort of reverse schadenfreude type feeling - despairing in the good works of people you don't like as it makes your dislike seem petty.

I happened to listen to a bit of talk sport radio this morning before the test match started and their angle was that having Bellamy was an unfair advantage to Cardiff as it made the championship uncompetetive. They seemed to fail to notice that the ability of a few of the premier league clubs' ability to pay any money to get any player makes that league such a level playing field.

It's a bit like crack Talk Sport - they followed up the Bellamy story with Jeremy Kyle frothing at the mouth about dole scroungers, it was a great relief when TMS started but I think I'll tune in again...

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Re: The Football

Post by Richard » Wed Aug 18, 2010 20:37

John Arne Riise would agree. Bellamy smashed his legs up with a golf club because Riise was too shy to want to join in doing karaoke. Shit, we'd all be fucked on a night out with Craig Bellamy. The best bit is that Bellamy and Riise just had a bit of a slanging match in the bar, but things cooled down eventually. However he was so angry that Riise wouldn't do the karaoke that he couldn't sleep, so grabbed his golf club, found Riise's hotel room and beat the shit out of him. That's proper mental, that is.

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Re: The Football

Post by mkgleeds » Wed Aug 18, 2010 20:49

indiansummer wrote:'

it's not quite robbie keane-esque levels of blatant fibbing on the subject, but even so
You mean Robbie's not a lifelong Leeds fan anymore....

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Re: The Football

Post by humblebee » Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:53

Yes yes yes yes yes!
In Love With These Times, In Spite of These Times wrote:And - the story is old, but it goes on - we think of our love of football (and we do still love it, despite its lazily packaged ubiquity spreading it thinner and thinner, which we will refuse to let crush us) and all the truisms that underpin it: loving not just football today, but the rich cultural history of the sport; loving not just the highest tiers of football, but valuing and enjoying it at every level; loving not just your club team or your country, but the wonderful, wide world of international football; loving not just "champagne" football, but admiring defensive, resilient, yes even bus-parking football too; appreciating that football is a game - a game - played (and refereed) by human beings in real time, and that the TV-led obsession with "video evidence" is just as inimical to appreciating it as overdosing on Carling OPTA stats, or those over the age of about 12 wheeling out the good old "deservometer" (the ever-selective "we should have won because we had more possession / we hit the woodwork / their goal was offside / the ref was a homer / because of Blatter and Platini", etc etc); recognising that MK Dons are not a football club; recognising that at the end of the day, real life is still more important (this is quite comforting to dwell on if, to pluck a random example out of the air, your team of choice has just lost 6-1 to Oxford Utd), and that just shouting a lot, being able to dish it out but not take it, and using football as a vehicle for general abuse of the other team / their fans / your own fellow fans / officials is not "passion", or at any rate, not the kind of passion that's worth cultivating. And we realise that actually, only a few of us seem to regard these things as truisms any more, which is probably why we feel so isolated in thinking that football is disappearing swiftly into a swishing cesspit of its own making, soundtracked only by cash tills and verbal abuse (and given that the average afternoon at a game at any level consists of little other than folk hurling the C-word about with abandon, the irony in the fear that vuvuzelas might destroy such a valuable atmosphere is PALPABLE...)
Kieran is as awesome writing about football as writing about music, then.

Read the whole piece. It will take you ten minutes. It will be worth it.
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Re: The Football

Post by a layer of chips » Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:55

It's great that, innit?

This bit about Chrish Hughton being having a Trotskyist past caught my eye the other day:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010 ... ew-2010-11

Paul Hart has a tortoise called Trotsky, and then there was Paul Breitner:

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Anybody know of any other left footy players?

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Re: The Football

Post by andyroo » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:05

Oleguer Presas was involved in anti-fascist action in Spain, although he blotted his copybook a bit by dabbling in a bit of ETA-sympathising.
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Re: The Football

Post by a layer of chips » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:11

Flippin' nora! The coach of the US women's team is a communist, apparently!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pia_Sundhage

Sorry, this is totally indulgent, but might turn into a blog post or something, if I can be arsed/have the time.

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Re: The Football

Post by indiansummer » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:15

Alex Ferguson, of course!

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Re: The Football

Post by Richard » Thu Aug 19, 2010 20:05

Cloughie donated plenty of cash to Socialist causes, didn't he?

Cristiano Lucarelli is a massive Communist.

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He even has a Communist ringtone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristiano_Lucarelli

Diego Maradona has a Che Guevara tattoo. I'm not sure that really means anything though.

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Re: The Football

Post by Richard » Thu Aug 19, 2010 20:13

Regarding Hughton...
appearances can be hugely deceptive and never more so, it seems, than in the case of chris hughton. journalists dealing with newcastle united's manager find him very pleasant, quietly charming even, but, well, a bit boring. rarely willing to venture a remotely controversial opinion hughton tends to toe the party line in assiduous company-man fashion, leaving reporters bereft of snappy soundbites let alone juicy detail.meanwhile, newcastle fans almost uniformly regard the modest 51-year-old, who hopes to extend their team's lead at the top of the championship with a home win against middlesbrough this lunchtime, as competent but uncharismatic.in reality it clearly all appears a facade as, unless he is a completely changed man, hughton is, inwardly, quite a firebrand, and, more importantly, in possession of an acute social conscience.back in the 1980s the former tottenham full-back earned a united nations commendation for his anti-apartheid campaigning, became friendly with neil kinnock, helped kate hoey's bid to be elected as a labour mp in the 1989 vauxhall by-election and even wrote a regular column in newsline, a trotskyist paper produced by the workers revolutionary party.today, hughton is not about to discuss marx, engels, lenin or even trotsky and brushes off his journalistic foray by saying: "i was a very young man and it was a football column. i wasn't really politically involved with them. did i try to get spurs to play in red? something like that." speaking seven years ago, though, the then tottenham coach proved a little more forthcoming: "i was brought up working class in east london with my own thoughts and my own beliefs and, when i began playing, i got involved in charity work and expanded those beliefs."
http://coach.soccerandfootball.com/T_14 ... brough.htm

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Re: The Football

Post by Paul » Thu Aug 19, 2010 20:56

Pat Nevin, although I don't know if he'd class himself as a socialist. Same goes for Arsene Wenger.

Zvonimir Boban springs to mind, or did he go the other way?

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Re: The Football

Post by Paul » Thu Aug 19, 2010 21:02

Oh and Bill Shankly obviously. As much as it pains me to say it, Gary Neville too.

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Re: The Football

Post by a layer of chips » Fri Aug 20, 2010 07:13

Richard wrote:Regarding Hughton...
appearances can be hugely deceptive and never more so, it seems, than in the case of chris hughton. journalists dealing with newcastle united's manager find him very pleasant, quietly charming even, but, well, a bit boring. rarely willing to venture a remotely controversial opinion hughton tends to toe the party line in assiduous company-man fashion, leaving reporters bereft of snappy soundbites let alone juicy detail.meanwhile, newcastle fans almost uniformly regard the modest 51-year-old, who hopes to extend their team's lead at the top of the championship with a home win against middlesbrough this lunchtime, as competent but uncharismatic.in reality it clearly all appears a facade as, unless he is a completely changed man, hughton is, inwardly, quite a firebrand, and, more importantly, in possession of an acute social conscience.back in the 1980s the former tottenham full-back earned a united nations commendation for his anti-apartheid campaigning, became friendly with neil kinnock, helped kate hoey's bid to be elected as a labour mp in the 1989 vauxhall by-election and even wrote a regular column in newsline, a trotskyist paper produced by the workers revolutionary party.today, hughton is not about to discuss marx, engels, lenin or even trotsky and brushes off his journalistic foray by saying: "i was a very young man and it was a football column. i wasn't really politically involved with them. did i try to get spurs to play in red? something like that." speaking seven years ago, though, the then tottenham coach proved a little more forthcoming: "i was brought up working class in east london with my own thoughts and my own beliefs and, when i began playing, i got involved in charity work and expanded those beliefs."
http://coach.soccerandfootball.com/T_14 ... brough.htm
Jesus. Hughton close to the WRP. That's bizarre.

Yeah, Clough went on that march with the journalists from the Nottingham Evening Post, didn't he? And wouldn't give interviews until their strike was over. But he was also a massive homophobe, eh?

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Re: The Football

Post by indiansummer » Fri Aug 20, 2010 08:34

a homophobic leftie... sort of the opposite of Pim Fortuyn?
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Re: The Football

Post by a layer of chips » Fri Aug 20, 2010 08:37

It's not as rare as you'd think it is, sadly...

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Re: The Football

Post by indiansummer » Fri Aug 20, 2010 08:55

oh aye, i know

i was just titting about
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Re: The Football

Post by a layer of chips » Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:27

On the other side of the coin, of course...

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Re: The Football

Post by indiansummer » Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:29

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Re: The Football

Post by indiansummer » Fri Aug 20, 2010 13:03

apologies if this has already been linked, and sorry for the double post, but...

http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/5703/38/

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Re: The Football

Post by Richard » Fri Aug 20, 2010 14:15

Everyone accuses Gianluigi Buffon of being a massive Nazi. I think his choice of shirt number (#88) was probably the main reason behind that.

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