A thread about putting on DIY gigs

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by a layer of chips » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:46

I never thought they would personally. But then it wasn't the band asking. Maybe he thought I was a bit wet behind the ears. Maybe he was right.

It wouldn't put me off going straight to the band and cutting out the middle man. It's not as though Shrag are completely inaccessible like some smaller bands that use agents.

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by wiaiwya » Mon Jun 15, 2009 14:34

oh, please do... the shrag band went down extremely well at last week's pain's shows, so demand will be on the up... always itching for shows...

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by caramarydaisy » Mon Jun 15, 2009 16:10

shrag tour of middle/northern england.. id be in on that!
i said OK! the wind said no

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by linus » Mon Jun 15, 2009 22:18

I was listening to an old marc riley and the creepers session following sam's thread the other day and the song 'goin' rate' made me think of this thread and the debate that's been going on lately:
Sorry son don't work for free,
it's unoriginal but still it's me
Play for me, play for me
Sorry son I don't work for free
They say:
What's the goin' rate?
I will give you half
What's the goin' rate?
I will give you half

Well we travelled down
to London town
in a van
pissing down
A fiver each, the gig was a peach
travelled back
phonecall from a twat
he said:
What's the goin' rate?
I will give you half
What's the goin' rate?
I will give you half

We go up and down,
up and down,
stripper's knickers,
up and down
on the M1
on the M6
another sound,
another dick,
he says:

What's the goin' rate?
I will give you half
What's the goin' rate?
I will give you half

Well it's a loss for nothing
plain to see
sometimes this lifestyle gets to me
bitch in the press
a man in a dress,
a shadow figure, I digress

I go up and down,
up and down,
stripper's knickers,
up and down,
part-time clown,
gets me down,
stripper's knickers,
up and down

What's the goin' rate?
I will give you half
What's the goin' rate I will give you half

Try to make them understand that The Creepers and me
are not a registered charity
Bloodsucking fleas
chopping fees
Come down here Marc,
work for free They say

What's the goin' rate?
I will give you half
What's the goin' rate?
I will give you half

Why ask for a hundred pound?
Come on Marc
we really dig your sound
why ask for a hundred pound?
Come on Marc
we really dig your sound

Grandmaster and me
don't work for free,
work for free,
work for free
Grand master and me
don't work for free,
work for free,
work for free

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by a layer of chips » Tue Jun 16, 2009 06:41

I love that song. The organ in it is amazing.

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by miss_steff » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:43

a layer of chips wrote:Less and less places are doing that bar takings thing, I've found. We did it at Carpe Diem in Leeds for about three years, and we let everyone in for free and got ten per cent of the bar take at the end of each night. We very rarely got given less than £200 and there was never less than 50 people in there. It was a crappy place to put gigs on, like, but it was always busy and everyone got paid.

I've not found anywhere in Nottingham that does that.
I've found only one venue in Glasgow that does that. Sadly.

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by Colin » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:01

Has anyone found themselves in the (admittedly quite good) situation of having sold a fair few tickets for a gig online and having to come up with the money in advance to pay the bands on the night? The major drawback of sites like Wegottickets is that you don't get the ticket money until a week or more after the gig so you have to make up the shortfall yourself. Or do bands ever agree to getting paid a while after the night itself?

Even if you've got enough to cover it, the logistics of withdrawing a large sum of money and taking it to the venue are a bit of a pain.

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by Trev » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:04

Colin wrote:Has anyone found themselves in the (admittedly quite good) situation of having sold a fair few tickets for a gig online and having to come up with the money in advance to pay the bands on the night? The major drawback of sites like Wegottickets is that you don't get the ticket money until a week or more after the gig so you have to make up the shortfall yourself. Or do bands ever agree to getting paid a while after the night itself?

Even if you've got enough to cover it, the logistics of withdrawing a large sum of money and taking it to the venue are a bit of a pain.
I've always gone the Credit Card route on the few times I have found myself in this position - withdrawing max amount each day until you have enough!

I've not seen a band happy to wait a week in my time of doing gigs.
not really here

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by a layer of chips » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:05

This happened with our all-dayer last year, Colin. I just took the tickets down off We Got Tickets and asked the rest of the people who hadn't bought a ticket to pay on the door.

It didn't occur to me that it might happen until after a while and I'd got all excited about the number of tickets we'd sold online, though.

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by Colin » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:09

I found out about it when I signed up to Wegottickets so I've known for a while this was coming. I'm just very nervous about having that much cash on me. Hopefully the venue will have a safe and let me use it for the duration of the gig.

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by kingofpartick » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:41

Colin wrote:I found out about it when I signed up to Wegottickets so I've known for a while this was coming. I'm just very nervous about having that much cash on me. Hopefully the venue will have a safe and let me use it for the duration of the gig.

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by Eddie » Tue Jul 28, 2009 01:24

About halfway through Sunday at Indietracks, I decided that I'm going to bring indiepop gigs to Kent.

I don't know how or even have the slightest idea where to begin, but by god I'm going to do it.

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by Trev » Tue Jul 28, 2009 07:29

Eddie wrote:About halfway through Sunday at Indietracks, I decided that I'm going to bring indiepop gigs to Kent.

I don't know how or even have the slightest idea where to begin, but by god I'm going to do it.
Absolutely Brilliant. I'm not in Kent. But that is what DIY is all about. I've put on a few shows in London these past few years. Feel free to PM any questions as they arise. Or I guess post them in here. This board is full of DIY promoters who can offer tips/advice/hugs.
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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by PurpleHippo » Tue Jul 28, 2009 07:54

Good luck. Kent needs something to rival the Billy Childish scene.

I used to promote gigs at the Monarch (Barfly) back in the early 90's.
It's hard work trying to get bands, even more so these days despite the
internet, as I found out when I tried to put on a gig at the Windmill a
few months back.I emailed loads of bands, the majority of them ignored me.

It helps to have contacts and most of mine are now retired or become accountants,
that's what happens when you live on the cusp of society with no money
for too many years.

Don't be discouraged by this old cynic though.
It was easy, it was cheap, go and do it!
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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by Eddie » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:24

Thanks.

Between last night and this evening I've now read this entire thread, and am now equally more terrified and excited by the prospect of doing something like this.

I'm not entirely working from nothing. I once put on an atrocious night in Tunbridge Wells (albeit not indiepop) and jointly put on a gig in London that went pretty well, but still managed to leave me quite disillusioned by it all.

First step I think is to find a reasonable (and by reasonable I mean incredibly cheap) venue I can use. Given there hardly seems to be anywhere in Kent that likes putting on live music, there's a good chance I'm going to fall at the first hurdle.

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by darvé » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:49

If you can make it close enough to get back to Gravesend by public transport (cab!) then count me in for sure. Kent needs more Indiepop nights, erm, an indiepop night.
and that snare drum, that drum roll
means we've got a winner

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by humblebee » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:41

Good luck Eddie - I hope it goes well for you. Gig promoting is weird - horrible and brilliant at once, and you get a corresponding wide range of emotions from it, from despair to jubilation.

One positive thing about capitalism's latest wave of convulsions is that pub managers might be more willing to have gigs on, just as a way of bringing people through the door. Maybe.

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by Damian » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:46

Yeah, I don't know why pub managers wouldn't want more people through the door. I guess it's a bit of a hassle sometimes setting things up, avoiding putting gigs on on 'regular nights' and that sort of thing, but the likelihood is that a band will bring in people and more people means more drinks being sold. Surely that's sensible business?

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by SophieC » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:50

should we make this thread sticky somewhere on the frontpage or something? fellow admins?
When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called 'the People's Stick.'

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Re: A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by a layer of chips » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:52

Yeah, deffo. Can you do it? I'm sure I can't...

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