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Re: The Drums?

Post by philjunebride » Wed Jun 02, 2010 17:37

islandhopper wrote:Can we have one thread for The Drums and another called Issues Relating To The Drums Assimilation Into Mainstream Culture (And General Bitching and Bitterness)?
This stuff matters. Doing a special recording for The Sun matters. What next? One for Fox news?

Many, if not all, of the people who are negative about this are negative because we bloody well care about music, and care in particular about this type of music. Saying is doesn't matter, or that we're just bitching, is cynical. Caring about this is the damned point of forums like this, surely?

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Re: The Drums?

Post by a layer of chips » Wed Jun 02, 2010 17:43

Then why not just write off The Drums as Another Shit Pop band? They're always going to be around. I don't see anyone here (well, maybe one person said it) saying they're the spirit of indiepop down to their very bone marrow, after all.

I appreciate what you're saying, Phil, but maybe The Drums want to make some money out of being in a band. Maybe they don't have the iron will to remain fiercely independent. Maybe it's just a job to them. Like all our day jobs might just be a day job to all of us. Whether that's right or wrong is another matter, but The Drums seem to be getting picked on here an inordinate amount for how important they really are.

Are we all to be slagged off for compromising ourselves for turning up to our (ultimately pointless and un-punk rock) jobs day after day?

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Re: The Drums?

Post by a layer of chips » Wed Jun 02, 2010 17:47

philjunebride wrote: Caring about this is the damned point of forums like this, surely?
It's mostly a way of killing time at work for me. If I want to show I care about music I'll go and buy a record or go to a gig. Arguing the toss on the internet is pretty pointless most of the time, isn't it? You get stilted arguments and a overvalued sense of your own opinion most of the time. And believe me, I've overvalued my own opinion on the internet long enough to know what I'm talking about here.

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Re: The Drums?

Post by islandhopper » Wed Jun 02, 2010 18:38

So on the one hand we have a band who have apparently "sold out" and who are doing very well and on the other, somebody who hasn't "sold out" and is always complaining about nobody turning up to their gigs. Each to their own I suppose.
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Re: The Drums?

Post by sweepingthenation » Wed Jun 02, 2010 18:49

islandhopper wrote:somebody who hasn't sold out" and is always complaining about nobody turning up to their gigs
I've hardly said anything here.

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Re: The Drums?

Post by philjunebride » Wed Jun 02, 2010 19:14

a layer of chips wrote:I appreciate what you're saying, Phil, but maybe The Drums want to make some money out of being in a band. Maybe they don't have the iron will to remain fiercely independent. Maybe it's just a job to them. Like all our day jobs might just be a day job to all of us. Whether that's right or wrong is another matter, but The Drums seem to be getting picked on here an inordinate amount for how important they really are.

Are we all to be slagged off for compromising ourselves for turning up to our (ultimately pointless and un-punk rock) jobs day after day?
Now don't be silly :-) Of course I don't have a problem with people making money out of this, or having a job. I suppose I get upset when I see what is an obvious major label payola-fed hype going on. That stuff annoys me, and I am old and wise enough to feel the need to enlighten the young ones (oh, just kidding!).
islandhopper wrote:So on the one hand we have a band who have apparently "sold out" and who are doing very well and on the other, somebody who hasn't "sold out" and is always complaining about nobody turning up to their gigs. Each to their own I suppose.
Absolutely. Of course I want people to love what i do, but not at any price.

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Re: The Drums?

Post by a layer of chips » Wed Jun 02, 2010 19:46

Fair enough, but I find that a ghettoised circle jerk over what's "true and real" (not your quotes, OBVIOUSLY) is nearly as repellent as a band signing to a major label and liking The Wake.

Music, like football and cheese, is all about opinions, isn't it? I just feel The Drums (but not Coldplay!) are being picked on a bit too much.

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Re: The Drums?

Post by aorta » Wed Jun 02, 2010 19:46

They haven't made it big in their own country though. Amazon has a bunch of expensive imports (I guess the album isn't coming out in the US) and all their shows until September are outside of the US.

I first heard about them from the Holiday Records site after looking for The Hairs. Funny how a group can get big so fast.
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Re: The Drums?

Post by linus » Wed Jun 02, 2010 19:54

a layer of chips wrote:Music, like football and cheese, is all about opinions, isn't it? I just feel The Drums (but not Coldplay!) are being picked on a bit too much.
that's weird, I'm eating cheese footballs while listening to music and I don't care what anyone thinks

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Re: The Drums?

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Re: The Drums?

Post by indiansummer » Wed Jun 02, 2010 23:44

a layer of chips wrote:Fair enough, but I find that a ghettoised circle jerk over what's "true and real" (not your quotes, OBVIOUSLY) is nearly as repellent as a band signing to a major label and liking The Wake.

Music, like football and cheese, is all about opinions, isn't it? I just feel The Drums (but not Coldplay!) are being picked on a bit too much.
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Re: The Drums?

Post by indiehorse » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:53

philjunebride wrote:I suppose I get upset when I see what is an obvious major label payola-fed hype going on.
They signed to a major label on the back of the genuine hype surrounding them.

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Re: The Drums?

Post by philjunebride » Thu Jun 03, 2010 13:42

indiehorse wrote:
philjunebride wrote:I suppose I get upset when I see what is an obvious major label payola-fed hype going on.
They signed to a major label on the back of the genuine hype surrounding them.
..and not because their previous label, Moshi Moshi, is owned by Universal/Island, so they get first rights to any of the bands on Moshi?

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Re: The Drums?

Post by Richard » Thu Jun 03, 2010 15:47

What happens if The Drums are the only people to turn up at the next Phil Wilson gig? I reckon the world ends.

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Re: The Drums?

Post by darvé » Thu Jun 03, 2010 15:52

Richard wrote:What happens if The Drums are the only people to turn up at the next Phil Wilson gig? I reckon the world ends.
That won't happen, they've obviously got good taste judging from the bands they namecheck.
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Re: The Drums?

Post by philjunebride » Thu Jun 03, 2010 16:13

davo wrote:
Richard wrote:What happens if The Drums are the only people to turn up at the next Phil Wilson gig? I reckon the world ends.
That won't happen, they've obviously got good taste judging from the bands they namecheck.
Good taste? Do you mean bands like June Brides fans The Field Mice , Servants and The Smiths?! I've just realised that The Drums might be all my fault ;-)

I don't hate the Drums, incidentally. Far from it. They seem to be nice enough chaps who like indie music and write wee catchy tunes. My points have mostly been made about the hype their record labels have tried to create around them and how galling it is.

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Re: The Drums?

Post by hhbtmike » Fri Jun 04, 2010 07:36

this thread just won't die.....
i am starting to come around for the drums a bit. the fact they are getting so many people worked up is just cracking me up, and they are kinda the non-underdog underdog of indie pop.
so far we know sasha likes the drums and cute unicorn avatars.
lots of people don't like the drums because they like to wear other peoples shoes and buy their clothes at the mall
other people don't like the drums hype machine
some people just like the songs and don't care about the hype
folks from the drums like good bands everyone else agrees are good, wearing other peoples shoes, shopping at the mall, and like to pick up gigs playing to next to no one when and where ever they can when not playing to loads of people or doing photo shoots in mall clothes and wearing the shoes of other people
and phil doesn't like the drums, then the drums dude is kinda nice and humble, then phil gives the drums a thumbs up, but a thumbs down to the major label hype machine
i think that catches us all up to date (so you can now skip pages 1-8 of the great drums debate)

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Re: The Drums?

Post by Sasha » Fri Jun 04, 2010 08:21

hhbtmike wrote:this thread just won't die.....
i am starting to come around for the drums a bit. the fact they are getting so many people worked up is just cracking me up, and they are kinda the non-underdog underdog of indie pop.
so far we know sasha likes the drums and cute unicorn avatars.
lots of people don't like the drums because they like to wear other peoples shoes and buy their clothes at the mall
other people don't like the drums hype machine
some people just like the songs and don't care about the hype
folks from the drums like good bands everyone else agrees are good, wearing other peoples shoes, shopping at the mall, and like to pick up gigs playing to next to no one when and where ever they can when not playing to loads of people or doing photo shoots in mall clothes and wearing the shoes of other people
and phil doesn't like the drums, then the drums dude is kinda nice and humble, then phil gives the drums a thumbs up, but a thumbs down to the major label hype machine
i think that catches us all up to date (so you can now skip pages 1-8 of the great drums debate)
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Re: The Drums?

Post by tompony » Fri Jun 04, 2010 08:35

I'm quite excited about The Drums going on tour with The Keys, Guitar and Basshunter.

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Re: The Drums?

Post by iainmayfield » Fri Jun 04, 2010 09:09

tompony wrote:I'm quite excited about The Drums going on tour with The Keys, Guitar and Basshunter.
You know what WILL happen next though - don't you? World tour supporting Coldplay!! Good luck lads!

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