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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by postalblue » Mon Sep 08, 2008 15:50

What are you guys talking about? "If She Wants" is a good song.
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Cedric » Tue Sep 09, 2008 01:43

RITH wrote:Talking about unexpected soundtrack music in movies (see Camera Obscura thread), how on earth did Get me away from here, I'm dying end up in Forgetting Sarah Marshall?

Ok, it's not as bad a movie as Over her dead body, but it seemed very out of place.

I can't help cringing a little when I here Belle and Sebastian on a soundtrack to the movie that isn't worth it. Juno is an example of this, I think.

As for the ‘If She Wants Me’ front, I’m with PostalBlue, it's a really nice song and for me, the redeeming factor of DCW.
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Modern Antiquarian » Tue Sep 09, 2008 23:05

Yes, 'if she wants me' is great. Its one of Stuarts 1995 songs I think I heard somewhere.

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by andyroo » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:22

There's nothing wrong exactly with "If She Wants Me" (it's not a howler like "Step Into My Orifice Baby") but it's just such a nothing song. As is a lot of that record.

Redeeming factors for me are only "Piazza New York Catcher" and of course "Stay Loose" which is one of the best things they've ever done. So says I.
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by postalblue » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:26

andyroo wrote:Redeeming factors for me are only "Piazza New York Catcher" and of course "Stay Loose" which is one of the best things they've ever done. So says I.
Those are skippers for me, meaning I always skip them when I listen to that record.
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by darvé » Thu Sep 11, 2008 13:22

andyroo wrote: Redeeming factors for me are only "Piazza New York Catcher" and of course "Stay Loose" which is one of the best things they've ever done. So says I.
Is there no love for 'Wrapped up in books' anywhere round here then? I could listen to that song, and sometimes do, at the expense of pretty much everything else they've done (with the possible exception of String Bean Jean)

It was the last great song they ever did, everything after that has been below par
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by JefCostello » Fri Sep 12, 2008 15:23

You heard it here first, folks.

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The album tracks the group’s development from their first live radio recordings for Mark Radcliffe’s show in July 1996, shortly after the release of their ‘Tigermilk’ album, through to a batch of four, much bootlegged songs recorded for John Peel in 2001, none of which have previously appeared on CD or vinyl.

After the initial support on Radcliffe’s ‘Graveyard Shift’ show – when the band twice travelled to Manchester in 1996 and played live into the show at Manchester’s Oxford Road studios – Belle and Sebastian moved to the earlier evening schedules in 1998, playing new songs, including an alternative version of the single, ‘Lazy Line Painter Jane’ and a definitive version of ‘Slow Graffiti’ for Steve Lamacq’s Evening Session. A subsequent Lamacq appearance was recorded in the less austere surrounding of a Radio 1 tour bus outside Barrowlands in Glasgow.

Despite featuring in John Peel’s Festive Fifty every year during the period and being played regularly on his show, the band’s first Maida Vale Peel session did not take place until 2001 – the first of four subsequent Peel appearances which included a visit to Peel Acres and a legendary, sixteen song Christmas gig at Maida Vale, both in 2002.

The four songs from 2001 – ‘The Magic of a Kind Word,’ ‘Nothing In The Silence,’ ‘Shoot The Sexual Athlete’ and ‘(My Girl’s Got) Miraculous Technique’ – never made it on to subsequent albums, and are the last studio recordings to feature Isobel Campbell. They capture the band on the precipice – at the end of one part of their history and at the start of another.

By the time of the recording of the Christmas show some six months later on 21st December 2001 in Belfast (which accompanies initial copies of the sessions album as a bonus disc), things had changed. Bob Kildea had joined on bass and guitar, and playing live had moved much further up the group’s agenda.

The Belfast show is full of relaxed seasonal cheer, with requests, guest vocalists from the audience with three cover versions – The Beatles’ ‘Here Comes The Sun,’ Thin Lizzy’s ‘Boys Are Back In Town’ and the Velvets’ ‘I’m Waiting For The Man’ – sitting alongside perennial live favourites like ‘The Boy With The Arab Strap,’ ‘The Wrong Girl’ and ‘The Model.’

Tracklisting

CD #1

Radio Sessions

1. The State I Am In
2. Like Dylan In The Movies
3. Judy and the Dream of Horses
4. The Stars of Track and Field
5. I Could Be Dreaming
6. Seymour Stein
7. Lazy Jane
8. Sleep The Clock Around
9. Slow Graffiti
10. Wrong Love
11. Shoot The Sexual Athlete (Previously Unreleased)
12. The Magic of a Kind Word (Previously Unreleased)
13. Nothing In The Silence (Previously Unreleased)
14. (My Girl’s Got) Miraculous Technique (Previously Unreleased)

CD #2

Live in Belfast

1. Here Comes The Sun
2. There’s Too Much Love
3. The Magic of a Kind Word
4. Me and the Major
5. Wandering Alone
6. The Model
7. I’m Waiting For The Man
8. The Boy With the Arab Strap
9. The Wrong Girl
10. Dirty Dream # 2
11. Boys Are Back in Town
12. Legal Man

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by colinsmitten » Fri Sep 12, 2008 15:35

I totally want this! thanks for the heads' up! yow!
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Colin » Fri Sep 12, 2008 15:40

Me too. Hopefully we can displace the B&S hate on here for a while. I've said it before, but that recording of 'I Could Be Dreaming' is one of the best things they've ever done in my opinion.

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Mr Bear » Fri Sep 12, 2008 15:41

Ooh, I like the look of that too. Yow indeed!

I remember listening to that Mark Radcliffe graveyard session. *sniff, nostalgia*

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by bocken » Fri Sep 12, 2008 16:18

Hmm, on a tape in the car I've got a version of Seeing Other People, which I used to think was great, but is in fact complete bobbins - it's really slow and Isobel has to breathe before each syllable. Anyway, I thought that was from Radcliffe, but you'd think it'd be on here, even if I do say it's bobbins.

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by gloom button » Fri Sep 12, 2008 17:37

andyroo wrote:There's nothing wrong exactly with "If She Wants Me" [...] but it's just such a nothing song.
I'm trying to decide if you mean this as a clever reference to the lyrics or not..
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by islandhopper » Fri Sep 12, 2008 17:53

That live in Belfast CD is pretty much a shortened version of the CD of them I had playing at the QMU around the same time. I think it may have been called The Boys are Back in Town and I bought it in Avalanche. It seems to be lost now though.

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by alongwalkhome » Fri Sep 12, 2008 18:22

JefCostello wrote:You heard it here first, folks.

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The album tracks the group’s development from their first live radio recordings for Mark Radcliffe’s show in July 1996, shortly after the release of their ‘Tigermilk’ album, through to a batch of four, much bootlegged songs recorded for John Peel in 2001, none of which have previously appeared on CD or vinyl.
OH, I am very much looking forwar d to this. I hope we'll be able to get it over here w/out much hassle--thaks for the tip off!

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Modern Antiquarian » Fri Sep 12, 2008 21:20

PandaBear wrote:Ooh, I like the look of that too. Yow indeed!

I remember listening to that Mark Radcliffe graveyard session. *sniff, nostalgia*
I remember listening to Nicky Cambell 'goes into the night' before Radcliffe took over. Thank god he did and not too late. The idea of an alternate reality where NIcky Campbell influenced my adolescent music choice makes me unwell.

I think this will be my last B&S purchase though.

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Jangloid Mark » Fri Sep 12, 2008 22:48

YAY!!!!! I'm glad they put out the Belfast Christmas thingy :)

I'm a little confused now, though...I already have a Radio Sessions album (mistakenly called 'The Peel Sessions'), which was an Italian import (KTS Records KTSBS 01)...and was, I always assumed, 2 Radcliffe sessions and one Peel session.
Looking at the tracklist of this, something has got a bit muddled somewhere down the line....probably on the disc I already have....

The tracklist is as follows....

1. Dog On Wheels
2. The State I Am In
3. I Could Be Dreaming
4. We Rule The School
5. Just A Modern Rock Song
6. Seeing Other People (Slow Version)
7. Judy and the Dream of Horses
8. Like Dylan In The Movies
9. Shoot The Sexual Athlete
10. The Magic Of A Kind Word
11. Nothing In The Silence
12. (My Girl’s Got) Miraculous Technique

I can't help wondering which tracks are which sessions....
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by DimitraDaisy » Fri Sep 12, 2008 23:39

islandhopper wrote:That live in Belfast CD is pretty much a shortened version of the CD of them I had playing at the QMU around the same time. I think it may have been called The Boys are Back in Town and I bought it in Avalanche. It seems to be lost now though.
I somehow happened to have been at both those shows! And at the ferry ride in between, which we shared with the band.
Jangloid Mark wrote: 1. Dog On Wheels
2. The State I Am In
3. I Could Be Dreaming
4. We Rule The School
5. Just A Modern Rock Song
6. Seeing Other People (Slow Version)
7. Judy and the Dream of Horses
8. Like Dylan In The Movies
9. Shoot The Sexual Athlete
10. The Magic Of A Kind Word
11. Nothing In The Silence
12. (My Girl’s Got) Miraculous Technique

I can't help wondering which tracks are which sessions....
I don't know about the Radcliffe sessions but I believe the last four songs are the Peel Session. And there was another Peel Session later on, too, wasn't there? With 'Wandering Alone' in it? And possibly 'Sleep on a sunbeam'? I seem to have a recollection of actually being in Britain at the time, and listening to it on the radio. In August 2002, it must have been.
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by timahall » Sat Sep 13, 2008 02:33

I was at that Belfast show!!! I'm so happy it's coming out on CD!!!

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Wheatabeat » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:22

Colin wrote:Me too. Hopefully we can displace the B&S hate on here for a while.
Hate? Ohhh, that's why my B&S night thread died promptly on its arse with 14 views and no posts! I didn't realise there was such a dislike about them within Anorak.
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by tall shaun » Sun Sep 14, 2008 15:35

ah come on,everyone love B&S really.
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