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The Housemartins

Post by a layer of chips » Fri Apr 11, 2008 09:27

Can I put this in the indiePOP! forum? I think I can.

Anyway, I was just listening to Lucksmiths' 'Requiem for the Punters Club', and it struck me it's a bit of a rip-off of 'Rebel Without the Airplay' by The Housemartins.

And then I realised that I hadn't listened to The Housemartins for ages, and I really should because they're ace and were one of my first loves, and - I don't want to sound too dramatic here - really changed my outlook on life loads when I was growing up.

Anyway. Any other fans?

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Post by kingofpartick » Fri Apr 11, 2008 09:35

Absolutely.

What a great band, i was listening to the second album in the shop last week, and London 0 Hull 4 is definately getting a play this week. You forget just how good those albums are if you don't listen to them for a while.
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Post by Tomb » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:07

Anxious should have been on CD86 or the Rough Trade indie comp. And how good is Stand At Ease?

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Post by a layer of chips » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:08

Stand at Ease is awesome. And is Drop Down Dead. They chucked so many songs away on b-sides, and what have you. Not that the A-sides weren't anything less than ace, mind.

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Post by Tomb » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:16

a layer of chips wrote:Stand at Ease is awesome. And is Drop Down Dead. They chucked so many songs away on b-sides, and what have you. Not that the A-sides weren't anything less than ace, mind.
There is a bootleg called Raise The Flag which compiles the b-sides etc. I play it more than the singles compilations! My favourite track by them is He Will Find You Out. I think it was one of Happy Hour's b-sides.

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Post by Huw » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:55

Paul Heaton lives round the corner from me. Everytime I see him I just want to give him the biggest hug ever. Then I remember The Beautiful South and run a-screaming...
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Post by yubo » Tue Apr 15, 2008 00:54

oh!
yay for a Housemartins thread. They were definitely my first favourite, and when I met Paul Heaton a couple of years ago, I was in so much awe.
anyways, I have nothing of importance to add.
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Post by emml » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:33

The Housemartins are a big favourite in our house. Song of the moment is 'I Bit My Lip' which I think is also on Raise The Flag?

Which reminds me, I've still got your Housemartins book Sam! I'll bring it next time I'm in Nottingham.

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Post by a layer of chips » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:51

Have you?! You could've got away with that, an'all.

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Post by frankie » Wed Apr 16, 2008 19:09

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Not sure a petition will do the trick (or even if I'd want to see them all as fat old blokes) but they were one of my favourite bands too - weird that there are probably only a handful of songs by The Beautiful South that I can listen to..

I downloaded the London 0 Hull 4 BBC2 documentary off TheBox tracker which I'd not seen in 20 years, yet could still remember bits of vividly (and also the live special they did on Hold Tight! from Alton Towers!)

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Post by philjunebride » Wed Apr 16, 2008 21:15

I'm sorry. I still loathe The Housemartins. Smug, smug, smug, smug, smug they were. Sorry...

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Post by linus » Wed Apr 16, 2008 21:20

Phil, is this because... conceivably... they leapt at the mini-major label deal and ended up on Saturday Superstore or Going Live or whichever it was and the Junies were principled and held their ground and... the rest is history? or are they just proper smug?

I can see your point... evidence a: Norman Cook

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Post by kingofpartick » Wed Apr 16, 2008 22:07

linus wrote:Phil, is this because... conceivably... they leapt at the mini-major label deal and ended up on Saturday Superstore or Going Live or whichever it was and the Junies were principled and held their ground and... the rest is history? or are they just proper smug?
i remember getting back from my paper-round to watch them perform Caravan of Love on The Wide awake Club, and it was the worst vocal performance ever. The entire thing was flatter than fuck, and i couldn't understand why the record sounded great but on telly it was so bad. Then i realised that they'd probably been out on the lash till late o'clock and had to get up at 5am to get to the studios and were likely suffering from king sized hangovers. You wouldn't catch me doing that.
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Post by philjunebride » Wed Apr 16, 2008 22:09

I was never jealous of their success. They just came over as immensely smug and self-satisfied. I think it was "Sheep" that really put me off. On the plus side, it was a mutual loathing of the Housemartins that helped me and my wife get together :-)

You just have to look at the Beautiful South and Fatboy Slim. Work backwards and you can see the clues in The Housemartins. But I know loads of people here love them. So...sorry.

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Re: The Housemartins

Post by a layer of chips » Thu Apr 17, 2008 07:27

I'd be self-satisfied if I'd produced two amazing albums like that, though.

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Post by The Rocky Nest » Thu Apr 17, 2008 14:33

AAAHHHH......The Housemartins sponsored my U13 boys football team in Hull during the mid 80's. We were crap .We got autographed press pictures and our tracksuits were red with 'The Housematins' in yellow across the back.Thay presented me with my player of the year trophy too......GOLDEN DAYS!

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Post by frankie » Thu Apr 17, 2008 14:47

You weren't one of those kids playing football with them on the bomb-site in the London 0 Hull 4 BBC Documentary were you?

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Post by The Rocky Nest » Thu Apr 17, 2008 15:00

I'm afraid not!
The film probably has a lot of kids from Newland Ave area in it though so i might know a few if i ever got chance to see it!
Also...
We played a crappy birthday party for some 18year old girl the other week and Hugh Whittaker was there!!!! He got up( well was dragged up) and played drums with a band of teenagers and did a Housemartins (Me and the Farmer) song.He looked well embarrassed.
Great drummer though.Sounded great and was the best song of the night including all of our set.Haha!!

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Post by linus » Thu Apr 17, 2008 15:09

philjunebride wrote:I was never jealous of their success.
I didn't mean to imply that, I think it was more that the independent scene then had certain values and principles and that The Housemartins could perhaps be seen as a band that leapt wholeheartedly toward the mainstream and eschewed all that 'stuff'...

there was a feeling of them (the corporate ogre) and us (wee apple-cheeked post-punkin' cherubs) back then (that makes it sound like 'before the war'), being independent didn't mean 'we're small and we like being small' but 'we're independent because we're in opposition to this (the corporate ogre) and all for that (freedom of expression, if you like)' and so on and so on- it was almost a political choice, or in some cases an explicit political choice

I just wondered if it was to that background to you're antipathy toward The Housemartins or was it because they was just shit, innit?

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Re: The Housemartins

Post by frankie » Thu Apr 17, 2008 16:25

I think I get where the right honourable Mr Wilson is coming from..

The Housemartins didn't write any personal love songs, or indeed any songs that expressed personal emotion without countering it with a large dose of political or romantic cynicism. Looking back there was a definite air of smugness about them (and that just got worse & worse with the Beautiful South)

Like all the religious stuff they purveyed - a capella gospel songs and crosses shaved into the sides of their head. I never took that seriously & it seemed like they were taking the piss. It was only their political songs that sounded genuine, but I might be wrong.

For me - I was 15 and they had some cracking tunes. Plus them and Bragg introduced me to socialist thinking - so not all bad!

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