Dishes/Washing Up

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Dishes/Washing Up

Post by squirrelboutique » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:45 pm

Yeah, I'm starting a thread about doing dishes/washing up. Why? I guess mostly because I don't have much to add to the Pains of Being Pure at Heart thread or any of the political ones since I stink at arguing on the internet.

I was talking to a friend the other night about house hunting and she wanted a dishwasher, which almost none of the old houses in our neighborhood have, and I was thinking I'd kind of never want one.

I like sudsing up the dishes (and am mildly addicted to the scent of the soap I bought) and thinking and daydreaming and looking out the window and the satisfaction of clean dishes. And washing/drying with another person is a nice activity. I even kind of obsess over buying sponges and dish towels and scrubby brush things.

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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by a layer of chips » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:48 pm

I'm very anti-dishwasher. Maybe this is because ours has broken and I can't be arsed to get it fixed, but do you really need a dishwasher when there's less than four of you?

In summary: I like washing, and am not so keen on drying.

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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by squirrelboutique » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:52 pm

Dishwashers are kind of silly if there aren't lots of people in the house, and I hate emptying them.

What you need is a nice selection of towels for drying. They really improve the drying experience. I'm a fan of the waffley kind of towels, preferably in red to match the kitchen curtains (at my house), and with a bit of embroidery or an appliqué of some sort.

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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by a layer of chips » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:54 pm

I get a bit anal with tea towels (not literally - that'd be disgusting) and kind of wash them to death, though, so they end up looking like rags after three months.

I often have flashbacks to Tea Towels of My Youth, though. I'm pretty sure my Mum has tea towels from prehistoric times, and still uses them.

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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by squirrelboutique » Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:01 pm

Moms have all the same kitchen stuff forever.

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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by SophieC » Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:13 pm

i was 18 years old when i washed up my own plate for the first time. that's a pretty disgustingly bourgeois confession right there.

the best dishwashing album for a big wash up is strangeways here we come. absolutely no contest. the intro to "last night i dreamt somebody loved me" always makes me think of nicely sudded up sink, a damp kitchen unit and a wrinkly finger.
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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by squirrelboutique » Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:14 pm

Ooooh, yes, music makes it even nicer.

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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by humblebee » Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:58 pm

a layer of chips wrote:I'm very anti-dishwasher. Maybe this is because ours has broken and I can't be arsed to get it fixed, but do you really need a dishwasher when there's less than four of you?
Just you wait til that baby's six months old...

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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by squirrelboutique » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:56 pm

Oh, it is really good for bottles. I forgot that.

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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by String Bean Jen » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:33 am

Nice thread! I like all sorts of cleaning but I do take pleasure in the necessity that is dish-doing as well. I don't understand why like all teensy-tiny British kitchens have dishwashers installed. We have one too. Why? I don't use it. Just another appliance to upkeep and clean up with bizarre accoutrements. I've never had a dishwasher so to have this thing staring at me every day is off-putting.

I too like cleaning accessories. I have a wee smiling scrubby sponge from the NY MOMA store. I really like those sturdy pink dishwashing gloves from Cosabella too. Cosabella make sturdy yet pretty cleaning accessories. There was a crafter in Chicago who made fabulous matching aprons and gloves from whom I bought a set once but I can't remember her name...damn.
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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by stolenwine » Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:13 pm

i used to love washing dishes too! there was something kind of relaxing about it. but now that we don't have one of those big double-sinks (just one small sink and a tiny sink beside it) it's not as much fun because it doesn't accommodate my dishwashing technique (which is to put the dirty dishes in one sink and then scrub them clean and put them in the second sink, and then rinse and put on drying rack). i wonder what other people's dishwashing methods are. one time my friend and i got laughed at in home ec class because we scrubbed with a sponge and then rinsed. the other students in our group put the dishes in a sud-filled sink and the just wiped them dry instead of doing the rinsing step.

we got all embarrassed because we thought we were doing it the wrong, immigrant way.
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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by Gordon » Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:33 pm

Green fact. An efficient dishwater is better for the environment than hand-washing... I wish I had a dishwasher.
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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by Uncle Ants » Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:12 pm

Gordon wrote:Green fact. An efficient dishwater is better for the environment than hand-washing... I wish I had a dishwasher.
Please explain, I find this unlikely. A bowl of warm water and some elbow grease seems fairly harmless, but I'm willing to be educated of course.
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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by Gordon » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:27 pm

Uncle Ants wrote:
Gordon wrote:Green fact. An efficient dishwater is better for the environment than hand-washing... I wish I had a dishwasher.
Please explain, I find this unlikely. A bowl of warm water and some elbow grease seems fairly harmless, but I'm willing to be educated of course.
Well, if you're going through a lot of sinks of hot water and rinsing and things, a god dishwasher can clean with a lot less heat. OF course this is from memory, I just remember reading it somewhere reputable and being surprised.
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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by boney » Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:21 pm

Gordon wrote:Green fact. An efficient dishwater is better for the environment than hand-washing... I wish I had a dishwasher...

Well, if you're going through a lot of sinks of hot water and rinsing and things, a god dishwasher can clean with a lot less heat. OF course this is from memory, I just remember reading it somewhere reputable and being surprised.
Hmm...factor in production costs of the dishwasher, electricity etc.. that's pure balls.

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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by nanski » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:12 am

i would think it would depend alot on washing style. I waste alot of water when i wash dishes, because i'm pretty anal about rinsing them with fresh water.

my mom and grandma have a dishwasher, but they run out of some things before they ever run it, so it seems silly for them. Plus, i know they love washing dishes.

i seem to have inherited this love. it's the only part of the clean freak gene I've inherited.

i've had dishwashers in both houses i've lived in here in Okinawa. I never used the one in the first house--even when it would have been useful after a party. I just forget it's there. We've used the one in this house (after a party), but it's pretty useless. It's one of those where you have to wash the dishes before putting them in the dishwasher or they won't come out clean.

oh... drying dishes. why? if you let them sit long enough, they will dry on their own.
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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by a layer of chips » Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:05 am

Right you lot - there's a massive pile on our worktop. if you all love it so much you can come 'round and do it before my Mum arrives at ten.

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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by Gordon » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:50 am

Giant Isopod wrote:
Gordon wrote:Green fact. An efficient dishwater is better for the environment than hand-washing... I wish I had a dishwasher...

Well, if you're going through a lot of sinks of hot water and rinsing and things, a god dishwasher can clean with a lot less heat. OF course this is from memory, I just remember reading it somewhere reputable and being surprised.
Hmm...factor in production costs of the dishwasher, electricity etc.. that's pure balls.
Hmm... You're probably right on production costs (I should try to track this article down). Not sure about electricity though, that heating efficiency is kind of the point. Don't worry, disciples, I'm still using my elbow grease. My ex ex's parents have a dishwasher which they use to keep nuts and other random food items. Their water heat is off 99.99% of the time. They're more frugal than Green, though.
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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by squirrelboutique » Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:16 pm

nanski wrote:
oh... drying dishes. why? if you let them sit long enough, they will dry on their own.
1. I have a very small kitchen and sink area, so if there's lots of dishes, some things have to get dried to make room for other things to dry.
2. Certain pesky bugs in Florida are attracted to water, and even a drop or two is enough .

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Re: Dishes/Washing Up

Post by DefenderOfPants » Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:07 pm

this is my first time living in an apartment without a dishwasher. sometimes it feels as though i spend most of my day washing cups.
it can be relaxing, but for the most part i am discouraged from cooking/eating. washing my water bottle is also a pain.

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