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Comput(bleth)er

Post by Gordon » Fri Aug 29, 2008 18:35

What a beautiful subject line I came up with...

I predict this thread to have one post, but you never know when people might have things to say about computers that aren't relevant to extant computer topics, or probably even themselves.

Internet explorer 8 beta has a new feature called InPrivate browsing:
Browse the web without saving your history with Internet Explorer 8's InPrivate Browsing. Now you can shop for that special gift with confidence knowing your family won't accidentally find out or use a shared computer without leaving a trace.
Haha, special gift. Special sexy gift, more like. Special sexy gift of computer porn for teenager who doesn't own computer to touch themselves to, more like.
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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by jayen_aitch » Fri Aug 29, 2008 18:41

Well, it's good that they know who their demographic is, I suppose.

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Post by crystalball » Fri Aug 29, 2008 20:48

Heh. I bet they spent ages trying to think of a good family-friendly excuse for that feature. Good effort.

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Post by Martijn » Sat Aug 30, 2008 00:13

I think it's being called the "porn button". And it doesn't even work, apparently: it doesn't store cookies or browser history but visited websites/pages are still stored on the computer for caching.

I check my other half's cookies and browser history every morning when she's asleep. She never buys me presents.

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Post by Mr Bear » Sat Aug 30, 2008 00:18

Gordon wrote:What a beautiful subject line I came up with...

I predict this thread to have one post, but you never know when people might have things to say about computers that aren't relevant to extant computer topics, or probably even themselves.

Internet explorer 8 beta has a new feature called InPrivate browsing:
Browse the web without saving your history with Internet Explorer 8's InPrivate Browsing. Now you can shop for that special gift with confidence knowing your family won't accidentally find out or use a shared computer without leaving a trace.
Haha, special gift. Special sexy gift, more like. Special sexy gift of computer porn for teenager who doesn't own computer to touch themselves to, more like.
If only that was in existence when I was in my teens...

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Post by Tomb » Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:25

You can do this now if you run your browser from Sandboxie. Not that I am talking from experience *cough*

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Post by soft revolution » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:45

OR, if you wanted to do completely the opposite, you could sign up fror browzmi with all your friends - http://www.browzmi.com/browzmi/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - so you can watch what each other are browsing for.
And by me, I mean, Flexo.

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Post by Martijn » Sat Aug 30, 2008 22:22

Tomb wrote:You can do this now if you run your browser from Sandboxie. Not that I am talking from experience *cough*
But at least there are very good reasons for using Sandboxie --or similar things-- that have nothing to do with you visiting sites that, erm, might reveal you're secretly buying family members presents.

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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by jayen_aitch » Sat Aug 30, 2008 23:31

Heh, I'm sure there are plenty of parents out there who would gladly accept the "gift" of a teenager who is not frustrated and being a nightmare.

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Post by Gordon » Mon Sep 01, 2008 17:04

taken from another thread: lynx vs links vs Elinks. What are the differences? I think I've managed to find all three for the mac (but only lynx is on the apple website...)
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Post by tonieee » Mon Sep 01, 2008 17:22

Gordon wrote:taken from another thread: lynx vs links vs Elinks. What are the differences? I think I've managed to find all three for the mac (but only lynx is on the apple website...)
Also links2.

Elinks and links2 are both improvements of links (and therefore similar) and I've used them both quite a bit. Out of the two I prefer elinks. It has tabbed browsing, minimal javascript support and cookies. Links2 can be launched in a graphical mode.

I've never used links.

I've not used lynx a great deal but I think it's a bit more basic (as is links I think). It may be better for low-spec machines.

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Post by Gordon » Mon Sep 01, 2008 19:20

Cheers. This was helpful too:
4:39 am on Jan. 14, 2005 (utc 0)

Had been using lynx for quite a while, but recently started using elinks when I found it in a backwater directory of my *nix machine.

Advantage lynx:

Ignores tables and positional formatting. Just spits out the text in the order it gets it. Nice to see the order things come out in a "reader" for hearing impaired, also (I think) gives a better idea of the order the SE bots see things in (although I don't know that makes much difference).

Advantage elinks:

Obeys Tables and some CSS positional formatting (though not all, by any means). You can actually use this to functionally surf the web. Also, has a habit of making those missiong "alt" tags jump out and smack you in the face by placing a big [IMG] wherever you have an image without an alt (so does lynx, but in the streaming text that lynx renders, this is far less noticeable).

Anyone here have any preferences?
I think links(1) basically hasn't been updated in about 5 years, too...
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Post by Gordon » Mon Sep 01, 2008 19:58

Anyone played with this? It's a little nuts (and in beta): http://www.livestation.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Free tv stations on Windows, Intel Macs and (possibly) Ubuntu, Fedora, and OpenSUSE.

It's mostly current affairs based now.
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Post by Martijn » Mon Sep 01, 2008 21:01

I mostly use w3m, very occasionally lynx. I've never met anyone who had heard of w3m, other than the bloke who first told me about it. It's a really decent text browser, its "graphical" capacities are much better than those of lynx (e.g. it does support frames and tables). I don't think it does CSS/JS though; the version I use doesn't in any case. And I think it hasn't been updated in ages either.

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Post by tonieee » Mon Sep 01, 2008 21:11

Top tip if you do start using elinks: press '.' and you'll get a number next to each link, button, entry field, etc. Then if you type that number your cursor will focus on that item allowing you to activate. That's the feature I miss the most when I use other browsers...

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Post by Martijn » Mon Sep 01, 2008 21:26

tonieee wrote:Top tip if you do start using elinks: press '.' and you'll get a number next to each link, button, entry field, etc. Then if you type that number your cursor will focus on that item allowing you to activate. That's the feature I miss the most when I use other browsers...
I'm pretty sure there's a Firefox add-on that does just that. It might even be built-in in FF3. I really like it in theory, but I've never got used to it in practise.

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Post by tonieee » Tue Sep 02, 2008 08:53

Martijn wrote:
tonieee wrote:Top tip if you do start using elinks: press '.' and you'll get a number next to each link, button, entry field, etc. Then if you type that number your cursor will focus on that item allowing you to activate. That's the feature I miss the most when I use other browsers...
I'm pretty sure there's a Firefox add-on that does just that. It might even be built-in in FF3. I really like it in theory, but I've never got used to it in practise.
I might try and find that and give it a go. I won't be able to do it at work though which is were I mostly use Firefox but I should be able to get Firefox 3 eventually so if it's built-in in that...

I really hate using the mouse but navigating a webpage by tabbing through each link can be quite tedious so that's why I use this and I've got quite used to it. I've even memorized the numbers of links I use a lot (e.g. 12 for view new post on Anorak)!

Firefox does have another feature that's useful for navigating web pages by keyboard: press ' and you can do a search on the text in links. It doesn't work on buttons or links that are images though.

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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by Gordon » Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:48

Speaking of browsers, what the heck is Google Chrome?

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/ ... owser.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030025-2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(not for OS X, apparently)

p.s. isn't it time gmail came off beta?
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Post by Martijn » Tue Sep 02, 2008 13:16

Yes it is.

Google Chrome sounds interesting. That is, the first eight or so pages of the comic do. I know just about enough of software to be able to say that these ideas sounds good, but then, not enough to be able to decide whether other browsers don't do something like that alread.

(Oh, and I'm afraid it wasn't FF3 that has the numbers-links-thingy, but Lotus Notes. Don't ask me why I confused these two.)

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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by Gordon » Tue Sep 02, 2008 17:19

Well, it should be out at 7pm BST.
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