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Post by Big Nose » Fri Dec 18, 2009 19:16

Try foobar2000. Or Songbird. Both are gooderer than Winamp.
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Post by humblebee » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:24

All I need from a media player is that it plays media, really. And that it's last.fm-compatible, so I can still scrobble my listening.

And that it doesn't bugger about with my filenames and folders and stuff.

And doesn't change all the system file associations without asking, to make itself the boss of my whole computer.

And doesn't put adverts on my screen. Or shove into my face huge lists of completely rubbish internet radio stations and things which I'd rather disembowel myself with a tea strainer than so much as consider listening to.

All fairly basic requirements.

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Post by tonieee » Sat Dec 19, 2009 13:21

As far as I know Amarok meets all those requirements.

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Post by humblebee » Sat Dec 19, 2009 14:22

Amarok website wrote:Please be aware that no stable version of Amarok for Windows has yet been released. This means those builds are FOR TESTING PURPOSES ONLY. There is no official support for them. Those builds might be unstable, have bad side effects, kill your cat, start WW4 or might even not work at all. You have been warned!
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Post by This Is Helena » Sat Dec 19, 2009 21:15

I recommend Media Monkey if you're using Windows. It should be able to do all you want. It's not a resource hog, is simple to use and doesn't mess with your files. It was also able to sync correctly with my MP3 player (not that you need to know that). It's one of the few things I really miss now that I'm using Ubuntu.
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Post by Tomb » Sun Dec 20, 2009 09:24

This Is Helena wrote:I recommend Media Monkey if you're using Windows. It should be able to do all you want. It's not a resource hog, is simple to use and doesn't mess with your files. It was also able to sync correctly with my MP3 player (not that you need to know that). It's one of the few things I really miss now that I'm using Ubuntu.
You should get it, well most of it, to work using WINE. See here for more.

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Post by tompony » Sun Dec 20, 2009 09:29

Hooray, I thought I was the only person who used Mediamonkey! I paid for the "deluxe" version and everything, it's really nice.

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Post by tonieee » Sun Dec 20, 2009 09:54

humblebee wrote:
Amarok website wrote:Please be aware that no stable version of Amarok for Windows has yet been released. This means those builds are FOR TESTING PURPOSES ONLY. There is no official support for them. Those builds might be unstable, have bad side effects, kill your cat, start WW4 or might even not work at all. You have been warned!
How scared should I be about this?
I didn't know about that, sorry. I doubt it'll kill your cat, though and it's quite unlikely do anything bad to your computer. It might start World War 4 but I think the worse that's going to happen is it'll not work or take a lot of fiddling around to get it to work. It sounds like you might be better of trying something else.

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Post by This Is Helena » Sun Dec 20, 2009 21:22

Tomb wrote:
This Is Helena wrote:I recommend Media Monkey if you're using Windows. It should be able to do all you want. It's not a resource hog, is simple to use and doesn't mess with your files. It was also able to sync correctly with my MP3 player (not that you need to know that). It's one of the few things I really miss now that I'm using Ubuntu.
You should get it, well most of it, to work using WINE. See here for more.
I have had it working using WINE but Last FM didn't work and some other stuff which made it good didn't work either. It was also really unstable and took an age to load but that might be down to my ancient computer.
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Post by tonieee » Sun Dec 20, 2009 21:49

This Is Helena wrote:I have had it working using WINE but Last FM didn't work and some other stuff which made it good didn't work either. It was also really unstable and took an age to load but that might be down to my ancient computer.
Have you tried Amarok? I don't use it myself (I use moc which is a console based player) but it does seem pretty good.

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Post by This Is Helena » Tue Dec 22, 2009 15:58

tonieee wrote:
This Is Helena wrote:I have had it working using WINE but Last FM didn't work and some other stuff which made it good didn't work either. It was also really unstable and took an age to load but that might be down to my ancient computer.
Have you tried Amarok? I don't use it myself (I use moc which is a console based player) but it does seem pretty good.
I've tried Amarok but then I did a distribution upgrade and got a newer version which had lots of problems. Many things didn't work and it was really slow. I then tried, unsuccessfully, to compile different versions. I don't mind doing a bit of tinkering with my computer but I don't want to be constantly having to do stuff just to get things to work. That's why I gave up on Windows.

Anyway, I've got used to not having Media Monkey and I'm now fairly happy with Gmusicbrowser.

Apologies for the rambling post.
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Post by Gordon » Sun Dec 27, 2009 07:51

indiehorse wrote:I have a quick question: it isn't really making me go "nnngh" or "heeelp!", but sometimes when I go to a webpage I get that box asking me if I want to save or open the file as if it is something other than a webpage. What's that all about? Is it my browser (Firefox) being silly or the website being silly?
Sometimes I think it means the MIME type is borked.
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Post by Jangloid Mark » Sun Dec 27, 2009 14:46

humblebee wrote:All I need from a media player is that it plays media, really. And that it's last.fm-compatible, so I can still scrobble my listening.

And that it doesn't bugger about with my filenames and folders and stuff.

And doesn't change all the system file associations without asking, to make itself the boss of my whole computer.

And doesn't put adverts on my screen. Or shove into my face huge lists of completely rubbish internet radio stations and things which I'd rather disembowel myself with a tea strainer than so much as consider listening to.

All fairly basic requirements.
Have you tried Media Monkey? I find it pretty good as media players go.

The one thing I don't like about it is (and to be fair, I am yet to find a media player that does otherwise), is it wants to get me to organise things into 'playlists' when I have things perfectly well organised on my hard drive...

Other than that, it's great!!!
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Post by humblebee » Sun Dec 27, 2009 17:43

Jangloid Mark wrote:Have you tried Media Monkey? I find it pretty good as media players go.
Briefly - a mate recommended it as an alternative to Itunes, when I had a brief flirtation with having an Ipod before giving up because the software is such a faff. I found it only marginally less faffy than Itunes so I gave up and uninstalled it (and went back to my old mp3 player, with its ridiculously simple and hassle-free Windows Explorer compatibility). I never tried using Media Monkey as just a media player though, so maybe it's OK for that.
The one thing I don't like about it is (and to be fair, I am yet to find a media player that does otherwise), is it wants to get me to organise things into 'playlists' when I have things perfectly well organised on my hard drive...
Yeah, what is that whole playlist thing about? More pointless stuff that just gets in the way, isn't it? When I want to listen to the same songs in the same order for a little while, there's already of doing that. It's called an 'album'. And if you've got one of these computer things, there are clever things called 'folders', which let you very easily organise tracks into these 'albums'. I recommend this to everyone!

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Post by caramarydaisy » Sun Jan 03, 2010 13:47

does anyone know any free software for burning cds, i seem to be getting it all wrong lately.

if you want to convert an mp3 to an audio cd format its .WAV right?
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Post by jayen_aitch » Sun Jan 03, 2010 14:17

caramarydaisy wrote:does anyone know any free software for burning cds, i seem to be getting it all wrong lately.

if you want to convert an mp3 to an audio cd format its .WAV right?
I know many may balk at this, but iTunes will do the job.

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Post by caramarydaisy » Sun Jan 03, 2010 14:29

jayen_aitch wrote:
caramarydaisy wrote:does anyone know any free software for burning cds, i seem to be getting it all wrong lately.

if you want to convert an mp3 to an audio cd format its .WAV right?
I know many may balk at this, but iTunes will do the job.
NO to itunes.

windows media player tried and failed, and i tried via windows and that didnt work properly either.

i cant even remember what i used to use on my old desktop, but i clearly havent put anything on this laptop yet.. so need to!
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Post by Sootyzilla » Sun Jan 03, 2010 17:04

humblebee wrote: Yeah, what is that whole playlist thing about? More pointless stuff that just gets in the way, isn't it? When I want to listen to the same songs in the same order for a little while, there's already of doing that. It's called an 'album'. And if you've got one of these computer things, there are clever things called 'folders', which let you very easily organise tracks into these 'albums'. I recommend this to everyone!
Metadata is more flexible than shuffling files about.
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Post by frogblast » Sun Jan 10, 2010 05:38

Sootyzilla wrote:Metadata is more flexible than shuffling files about.
I really shudder at the idea of micromanaging my ~13,000 music files into folders with a file browser. And even once you've completed the task, you can only file things in a single place unless you want to start making loads of shortcuts between folders (doubling the amount of work), which is a pain if you have things like compilation albums. I know system wide searching is fast and efficient on modern operating systems, but it's never quite as fast as searching in a dedicated media player, and your results will be full of pictures of electrelane when all you wanted was to listen to them (maybe no bad thing, but next you might search for morrissey and get a right eyeful). I don't even use playlists in iTunes, I just use it as something to let me search for stuff quickly and to keep track of all the files (making it easier to backup my library as well, since I know anything I add to iTunes gets copied to a certain folder).

I can understand people's dislike of iTunes, especially on Windows where it has never been well integrated. It hasn't been a very good ambassador for the cause of metadata and library style applications (both of which I think are great). One day I will write a cocoa iTunes replacement, without all the store/video playing bloat, with things like folder monitoring, and it will be beautiful and awesome, but until then, i'm stuck with iTunes, a good idea, with mere average execution.

anyway, that's my zealous opinion on the matter. don't get me started on the benefits of using metadata to organise other file types rather than using folders :p
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Re: Nnngh, this...COMPUTER! Heeelp!

Post by PCP » Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:52

I was getting "CMOS checksum error" earlier
Anyone know how I can back up the BIOS settings and of course how would I then restore them?

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