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Post by lynsosaurus » Sat Sep 29, 2007 16:00

Somewhere to talk about rocks and hills, innit.

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Post by rainking123 » Mon Oct 01, 2007 14:44

oooh this may be home to me in about 9 months, (if i pass my citizenship test, uni entry and driving test) but right now i just wanna gloat that ingeland is sinking

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Post by frogblast » Tue Oct 02, 2007 20:04

awesome.

can we bitch about human geography in here as well?

semiology is a load of crap. discuss.

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Post by lynsosaurus » Tue Oct 09, 2007 02:13

frogblast wrote:awesome.

can we bitch about human geography in here as well?
yes please. i hold a completely ridiculous grudge after a human geography lecturer asked me a really horrible question in a really mean tone, at the end of my first talk as a postgrad (which i was crapping myself about for about two weeks beforehand). obviously i'm going to tar every single person in that discipline with the same brush.

i'm just glad someone else has posted in here, i thought it might just be me posting to myself for all of eternity. good work.

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Post by frogblast » Sat Oct 20, 2007 20:12

i'm feeling particularly pissed off with my course at the moment.

fucking sociology in disguise is what it is.

bastards.

the next person to describe something that is not literally alphabetical characters on a page as a "text" is going to get my fist rammed down their throat, followed by repeated kicks to the groin.

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Post by lynsosaurus » Sat Oct 20, 2007 20:18

Haha! I assume you're referring to the debates in geography course? I'm tutoring on that. The tutorials were actually kind of interesting for me, but the reading list is a total nightmare to trawl through. I don't think any of the students are enjoying the direction that course is taking, especially the physical geography ones.

How was the field trip, by the way? I didn't get to demonstrate on that in the end.

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Post by frogblast » Sat Oct 20, 2007 20:53

lynsosaurus wrote:Haha! I assume you're referring to the debates in geography course? I'm tutoring on that. The tutorials were actually kind of interesting for me, but the reading list is a total nightmare to trawl through. I don't think any of the students are enjoying the direction that course is taking, especially the physical geography ones.

How was the field trip, by the way? I didn't get to demonstrate on that in the end.
debates isn't the worst course i've ever done: i don't mind the philosophy stuff and the tutorials have been quite good. i even made a passing attempt at the optional essay! though i agree that a lot of the reading is a bit horrific. i may have become a bit overconfident due to that fact that most other people in my tutorial hadn't even attempted to read most of the stuff, which makes me feel like i'm actually understanding stuff. my opinion on this changes quite frequently though; seems to be quite strongly related to who's doing the lectures at the time… *cough*

qualitative methods however: fucking nightmare. bloody ethnography project.

field trip was quite good, i do have an irrational fear of those kind of things, so inevitably they are not as bad as i imagine beforehand.

i don't actually hate all human geography: my risk, environment and governance course is probably the only thing keeping me from running away and crying in a small darkened room.
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Post by lynsosaurus » Sat Oct 20, 2007 23:35

I've got a pretty good tutorial group for the debates course, actually, so I enjoyed the tutorial. They'd all read the articles and everything! I found some of those articles pretty pointless, though, just a lot of circling around and talking about the need for stuff that already exists.

I'm posting about geography on the internet at 23:30 on a Saturday. Geek alert!

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Post by lynsosaurus » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:51

I don't know if this is strictly the right thread for this, but I couldn't think of another relevant one.
Sir Edmund Hillary, who made a historic first ascent of the world's highest peak, Mount Everest, has died aged 88.

New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark described the explorer as a heroic figure and said all New Zealanders would deeply mourn his passing.

Sir Edmund's health had reportedly been in decline since April, when he suffered a fall while visiting Nepal.

He was the first man to climb the 8,850m (29,035ft) peak, with Tenzing Norgay, on 29 May 1953.

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Post by frogblast » Thu Jan 24, 2008 13:09

i'm probably going to end up doing a human geography dissertation. oh the shame.
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Post by Jeezy Creezy » Thu Jan 24, 2008 13:16

But they're great! I loved those dissertations.
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Post by lynsosaurus » Thu Jan 24, 2008 13:23

frogblast wrote:i'm probably going to end up doing a human geography dissertation. oh the shame.
Heh! What are you doing it on?

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Post by frogblast » Fri Jan 25, 2008 16:29

lynsosaurus wrote:
frogblast wrote:i'm probably going to end up doing a human geography dissertation. oh the shame.
Heh! What are you doing it on?
failing any other ideas, probably on risk perception of nuclear power - more specifically in relation to proximity to power plants.

partly because i took paul bennet's risk environment and governance course last semester, and partly because i have an interest in nuclear power (my summer job for the last three years has been doing clerical stuff at the nuclear division of an engineering company, and my dad who works at said company is militantly pro-nuclear)

the department complains about how few people do physical geo dissertations - but it's hardly surprising when you look at the core courses*, also they haven't really given any guidance about what physical techniques are available. if i'm not doing a physical dissertation (as someone who transferred from bloody physics!) i don't know who is.

*even the assignments we had in the quantitative methods course were about a survey of income/education/opinions about environment ect.

also, my tutor today had elbow patches on his jumper, which i thought was hilarious, but became ironic once he revealed that he's never done geography before, only philosophy and political science or something
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Re: geology and geography

Post by frogblast » Wed Feb 25, 2009 22:22

doing a masters or phd in geography isn't a good idea is it…
i'm getting closer and closer to applying for a phd course. luckily i probably wouldn't be accepted (and most of them want you to have a masters anyway). but there is always that slim chance. and that scares me.

i'm going to have to write my dissertation over the next couple of weeks and hopefully that will remind me how much i hate this shit. (writing essays that is).
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Post by lynsosaurus » Wed Feb 25, 2009 23:44

frogblast wrote:doing a masters or phd in geography isn't a good idea is it…
i'm getting closer and closer to applying for a phd course. luckily i probably wouldn't be accepted (and most of them want you to have a masters anyway). but there is always that slim chance. and that scares me.

i'm going to have to write my dissertation over the next couple of weeks and hopefully that will remind me how much i hate this shit. (writing essays that is).
if you'd asked me a year ago i would have said YEAH! DO IT! but i've since started writing my thesis (well, trying to write it, mostly failing) and i am fucking hating it right now. it's just this massive shapeless THING that i need to get done and i can't seem to get an in on it. but if i'm totally honest, i know this is just a slump and it will get better soon.

i didn't have a masters and they were daft enough to accept me for the phd AND give me funding for it. i think they're more interested in whether you have the relevant experience in a similar topic (like if you were doing your dissertation on something related, or something like that). i didn't even get a first in my undergrad degree, which i was always told was almost essential. where are you thinking of going and what are you thinking of doing?

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Post by frogblast » Thu Feb 26, 2009 13:59

well it's really an excuse to a) stay in edinburgh and b) not have to find a job. so not very good reasons for doing it! i don't know that i'd want to do it if it meant moving somewhere else.
the ones that had interested me the most were about pollen/charcoal etc analysis in the amazon, looking at Pre-Columbian civilisations (i don't think i could cope with going to the amazon though. too many spiders) or about historical geographies of exploration and travel (but i don't really know anything about that) or about the history of cartography (again, not something i know all that much about). i think most of the other explicitly said they wanted a masters to get any funding or were in things i wouldn't want to do. the other thing that scares me is the thought having to take tutorials and at least look like i know what i'm talking about (if i have one skill, it's writing stuff that sounds like i know what i'm on about, even when i don't. unfortunately, when it comes to talking it's the opposite - i always sound like i know far less than i do)

i should probably just go and talk to the people supervising them since they know me.


i found out today that somebody else is doing virtually the same dissertation as me. it felt kind of like what i imagine it feels like to turn up at a party where somebody has on the same dress as you. not that i usually wear dresses (or go to parties for that matter).
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Post by lynsosaurus » Thu Feb 26, 2009 15:01

is the pollen/charcoal thing with frank? that sounds pretty interesting. although i almost deliberately work in deserts so i don't have to cope with all the insects.

as for tutoring, you don't HAVE to do it unless you're on a school scholarship, and i've been tutoring for three years and i rarely know what the fuck i'm on about. the only subject i've tutored on where i've really known the subject is geomorphology. with the rest, you just read the papers and trust in the fact that doing research gives you the skills to pick up information from them quicker than an undergrad would. i read so many papers these days that i've become really good at weeding out the relevant information from stuff i read. also, as a tutor, you're supposed to facilitate discussion more than anything else, and (i tell myself this, at least) it's better if you are also getting to grips with the material you're reading cos it's meant to be about discussion and stuff rather than you lecturing to the tutorial group.

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Post by susanb » Thu Feb 26, 2009 16:43

frogblast wrote:i found out today that somebody else is doing virtually the same dissertation as me. it felt kind of like what i imagine it feels like to turn up at a party where somebody has on the same dress as you. not that i usually wear dresses (or go to parties for that matter).
It's annoying when that happens, I had a similar thing happen to me at a conference last year (although I'm doing parasitology not geography).

As far as doing a PhD goes I would recommend only doing one in a subject you are really interested in. Speak to the potential supervisors about the projects and if you don't find yourself feeling enthused about the project then I would say keep looking. I'm in science so funding is a bit easier to get but I managed to get funded easily with a 2.1 M.Sci (undergraduate masters with work placement).

I studied geography in my first year of uni and had to decide between it and biology. My Dad kept hinting at me that it would be easier to find a job with a biology degree (this wasn't what made me choose biology), but now most of my friends who studied geography have good permanent jobs that they find interesting whereas a lot of my friends who studied biology and chemistry are struggling to find something even semi-permanent that they like. My point from this is to choose something that you will enjoy, not just for future employability as this can change over time.

Oh, and if other geography students are reading this then you should have a look at egea. It's the European geography association for students and young geographers and has entities at universities throughout Europe. I was a member of the Glasgow entity throughout my undergraduate degree (even when I no longer studied geography) and got to take part in several exchanges and conferences. The exchanges are basically a great cheap way to see European cities with a local guide, and I've still got lots of friends throughout Europe from it. The Glasgow entity doesn't exist anymore as the younger students all seemed to view it as a sad/geeky way to spend your holidays but I managed to visit and experience lots more places than I would have otherwise been able to (and I got to keep up my interest in geography a bit while I was at it). It's really easy to set up a new entity as well. Sorry, advert over. I just thought I'd put it here in case anyone might be interested.
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Re: geology and geography

Post by frogblast » Thu Feb 26, 2009 19:50

lynsosaurus wrote:is the pollen/charcoal thing with frank? that sounds pretty interesting. although i almost deliberately work in deserts so i don't have to cope with all the insects.
yeah. i'm doing his "Tropical Ecosystems, Climate, and Lost Civilisations" course this semester
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Post by frogblast » Mon Mar 02, 2009 19:34

hmm. Charlie did quite a good job of dissuading me. deadline for proposals is friday! and they only have funding for 3 human geography students… and you need to do a masters as well, so it's 4 years
and obviously my reasons for even going to see him were all the wrong reasons, as he pointed out…

but the national library have all these records from when the ordnance survey first went around scotland to find out the names of places. obviously they got loads of different answers when they asked people and there is a big archive of the discussion about which place name they would use on the map. and hardly anybody has really looked at it before.

i've got an essay in this week, so that leaves me virtually no time to write a two side proposal about a topic i don't know anything about. and the chances of me getting funding would be really low. (and i would feel so guilty if i did actually get funding considering all the more capable, enthusiastic, intelligent and dedicated people i'm sure they would be turning down)

so, um, yeah. i think i'm going to set my sights back on something more realistic - fixing computers for minimum wage. (when i get turned down for that i really will cry)
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