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Re: Glasgow

Post by Colin » Thu Aug 20, 2009 13:36

I've just found out that Jeffrey Lewis is playing at Oran Mor on 1st September, so with The Pastels on the 2nd and the Bubblegum Records launch on the 3rd, that makes a trio of ace midweek popshows in Glasgow. Exciting!

I'm trying to work out whether I can be arsed going to see Jeffrey Lewis in Edinburgh instead on the Monday night, because Withered Hand is/are supporting.

My gig-finding radar is fucked at the moment though. I had no idea Crystal Stilts were playing with Veronica Falls the other night until I read it in the paper than morning.

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Re: Glasgow

Post by Gordon » Thu Aug 20, 2009 14:26

Fuck, when/were is the Ed show? How much? ARGH!?

(edit: I looked it up)
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Re: Glasgow

Post by Stew » Thu Aug 20, 2009 15:07

You may also be interested to know that Jeffrey Lewis is appearing at the Glasgow Film Theatre the day of his gig, to deliver his lecture on Watchmen.
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Re: Glasgow

Post by Colin » Tue Aug 25, 2009 13:59

Good news: Slow Club are playing at The Classic Grand on 26th September.

Bad news (for me): I'll be in Nottingham.

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Re: Glasgow

Post by mae » Thu Aug 27, 2009 19:01

hello! alec and i are in glasgow this weekend. is anything happening? there seems to be a craft thing at mono on sunday but other than that we have no plans.

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Re: Glasgow

Post by Sootyzilla » Fri Aug 28, 2009 18:36

Some folk are going to the Doublet for a beer tonight if you are there already.
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Re: Glasgow

Post by Paquito » Fri Sep 04, 2009 13:52

Going for a couple of drinks in the Bon Accord tomorrow night if anyone's about. We'll aim to be there around 8pm.
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Re: Glasgow

Post by a layer of chips » Wed Sep 16, 2009 17:14

I just received this. I presume it's the EDL acting under a different name, else it would be very confusing indeed...
URGENT ACTION ALERT - ANTI MUSLIM GROUP PLANNING TO DEMONSTRATE IN GLASGOW ON NOVEMBER 14, 2009

We have just received information that an anti-Muslim group calling itself the `English Defence League` are planning to demonstrate in Glasgow on the afternoon of Saturday 14th November 2009 .

The group recently demonstrated outside mosques in London and Birmingham, chanting "Muslim bombers off our streets". On Friday 11 September, over 2,000 people turned out to defend the Harrow Mosque.

At this stage, we don't know where in Glasgow they are planning to demonstrate, or whether any of Glasgow's mosques are the intended target. If you have any additional information , please reply to this email. We will keep you updated.

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Re: Glasgow

Post by Gordon » Wed Sep 16, 2009 23:03

Different name?
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Re: Glasgow

Post by jayen_aitch » Wed Sep 16, 2009 23:15

The English Defence League?

Save the Sassenachs!

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Re: Glasgow

Post by Gordon » Wed Sep 16, 2009 23:31

Alba!
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Re: Glasgow

Post by islandhopper » Thu Sep 17, 2009 00:05

What's this? Canadians coming over here an not even speaking English. Out!

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Re: Glasgow

Post by Gordon » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:46

Good point! They may also be defending a particular style of horse-saddle.
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Re: Glasgow

Post by a layer of chips » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:59

More here:
Anti-Muslim protest date set
Date: 17th September 2009

A date for an anti-Muslim protest in Glasgow has been set, as first warned
by the Scottish-Islamic Foundation on Monday
<http://www.scottish islamic.org/ index.php? go=news&id= 430> .

A 'Scottish Defence League' has been set up in parallel to the equivalently
named organisation in England. They have announced a protest on 14th
November, 1.00-2.30pm at an as yet unnamed location. As of 11am today, less
than 24 hours after it was set up, 129 people have confirmed their
attendance at it on Facebook
<http://www.facebook .com/event. php?eid=13643755 4910&ref= share> .

The EDL and associated groups have organised a string of protests in towns
and cities in England recently, including outside mosques. Banners have
included 'no more mosques'.

The SIF is mobilising a response to the protest in coordination with
mosques, organisations and police. An emergency public meeting has been
arranged for next week to discuss arrangements for the day.

Commenting, Asif Ahmed, chair of the SIF said:

"This is time for Scotland to once again show we will not be divided by
extremists. We have faced worse and come through it. The last time Glasgow
was tested was at the 2007 airport attack. What we saw then was all strands
of society coming together for a remarkable show of solidarity in George
Square. We'll be working again to make sure that the numbers peacefully
opposing extremism will far outstrip that of the haters."

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Re: Glasgow

Post by Sootyzilla » Thu Sep 17, 2009 16:51

I pity the fools.
As wrong as it was to do,
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Re: Glasgow

Post by jonny » Tue Oct 06, 2009 08:45

I'm in Glasgow for two nights, tonight and tomorrow. Does anyone know if anything fun is happening - gig, comedy, theatre etc?

Also any particular must sees in the city?

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Re: Glasgow

Post by Colin » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:55

There's going to be a counter-rally/march against the SDL protests starting from Glasgow Green at midday on Saturday 14th November. I'd attach the flyer here but we're not allowed to upload pdfs to Anorak.

Who's going? We can make it a day of revolution followed by a nice spot of indiepop at the Duck later on.

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Re: Glasgow

Post by lynsosaurus » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:07

count me in, comrade.

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Re: Glasgow

Post by Colin » Thu Nov 12, 2009 21:22

I'm on a facebook group for another demonstration on Saturday that seems to be taking a more confrontational approach than the Glasgow Green demo. I was thinking of going until they posted this. Call me a massive wimp if you like, but I don't particularly feel like being beaten up or arrested.
STICK TOGETHER: Always make sure you are with someone else when you go anywhere you expect the fash to be. Arrange a meeting place away from where yu plan to confront the fash and go there in a group. Don't get caught on your own. Work with peopl you know and trust s you can look after each other. Don't forget to sort out a place to meet up again if you are separatd.

Buddy Up: Find someone who will stick kwith you whatever happens and who will watch your back. Two heads are better than one an in a fast-moving situation it is a good thing to have someone else to watch your back nd mke quick decisions with you.

Form An Affinity Group: If you're in a larger group then form what called an Affinity Group. Affinity Groups are anything btween a handful to a dozen or so people who work together as a unit. If you get a chanc, the affinity group should meet beforehand to sort out things that you need to organise such as phone numbers, cameras, banners, food andwater and where and when to meet up.

For the 14th there'll be an independent Legal Support Tam organised who will dstribute bustcards and a phone number to ring if you get nicked. They'll have Legal Observers wearing orange hi-vis vests trying to keep up with any action.

If anyone in your affinity group gets nicked make sure the Legal Support Team knows the full details.

SAFETY & SECURITY As well as the risk of violence from the fascists there'll also be the cops to watch out for. The cops will be looking to prevent any direct action taking place against the fascists. They'll also be looking for evidence to ue later on. Remember they'll also be trying to find out who the ring-leaders are and at a later date they might want to catch people and charge them with conspiracy.
Before going anywhere, check your pockets for anything that mayincriminate you like drugs or documents that might give the cops information about you and your group in case you get arrested. Delete any incriminating messages off of your mobile or use an old mobile that you can bin if necessary.
Pay attention to WHAT YOU ARE WEARING in advance. Consider precautions that are discreet and adaptable and easy to apply and discard. Make it difficult to identify you and other individuals - mask up and if everyone masks up no-one will stand out. (consider purcasing a gaiter from the outdoor clothing store) Wear a hoodie, to cover your hair, and sunglasses. Wear a scarf that can cover your face.
You might also want to wear padding on your arms as protection. Football shin-pads, cardboard or foam wrapped around your arms and worn under your clothing can help protect you against truncheon blows. Alternatively, thick reinforced placards make good shields - make sure you have strong hand-grips and padding to protect your hands from bruising if they get hit by police truncheons.

In thesame way reinforced banners can be used eiter defensively or to push through police lines. Use vinyl banners reinforced with carpet or plywood strips so that it can be used as a protective shield. Make sure hand grips are strong enough and are protected from baton beatins.

ALWAYS WATCH THE COPS!
On the day always keep an eye on what the cops are doing, whether they are bringing in extra cops, whether they seem to be closing off routes etc The main way they'll try to stop direct will be trying to contain or kettle groups so we can't get to the fash.

The best way to avoid this is to stay asa groupand keep movng and not let the cops encircle you.Nip in the bud any attempts by the cops to form lines or divide the crowd. Don't be intimidated,cops are not superhuman! They'll try to control your group by intimidation but be ready to run past them. Think about what you are doing and protect each other.

KETTLING ADVICE:
1 Keep looking outwards.
2 Get used tothe idea of LINKING ARMS and FORMING CORDONS to DEFEND your group.
3 Watch the cops so their next move can be pre-empted - Don't let them bring in enough reinforcements to surround you
4 Stop the police forming tight lines- this is the main technique they use to contain andcontrol crowds.
5 Keep moving, change direction to prevent the cops getting ahead of you, be unpredictable
FIT TEAMS Be aware of CCTV cameras. Cops will also use Forward Intelligence eams (There were plenty in Manchester from early doors right through the day esp covering public transport) These are usually groups of 3 cops armed with cameras. They follow people filming tem and areused to intimidate ppl from ding anything. Keep an eye on the FIT teams - they may not be a direct threat on the day (except irritating) but may be a problem later on. If you are determined and block their cameras with your placards or standing in front of them they will withdraw.

Keep an eye out for SNATCH SQUADS who will be sent into a crowd to isoate and arrest an individual. You will see the group prepare behind the police line and the police line and the line will be opened temporarily to let them through. The FIT team may point out the person they want to detain beforehand. If you think this is happenning warn the personso they can get away and block the squad by linking arms and making a fuss.

KEEP CALM
Generally try to communicate with each other calmly. Shouting at people to do things and pointing can mark you out as a possible "leader" to the cops and the fash. It can also unnecessarily alarm and excite people and distract from whats really going on. Try to avoid shouting people's names if you're near the cops. Use nicknames or pseudonyms instead.

If you see anyone looking hurt, scared or ill - check them out. Go and talk to them, try to reassure them, sort out water or fod or get them a street medic or call an ambulance.

HORSES(expect plenty of these)
Horses often look much scarie than they actually are. It takes them time to get organised so you can pre-empt them easily. The police use the horses to push against a crowd to get them to move back. They'll also ride horses into large crowds to split the crowd up.

Horses charging at you can be very scary but look for places to duck into such as doorways or between parked cars - you won't be able to out-run the horses but you wll be able to duck into places they can't reach you. Let the horses pass you, regroup, then move off in a different direction.

Remember horses look scarier than they really are and you'll really piss off animal rghts activists if you start throwing things at them...SO DON'T!

IF YOU'RE ARRESTED make sure you've read the bust card before you got arrested! Writethe legal support number or the lawyer's number on your armso you can't lose it. Make sure someone knows what name and address you are going to give the cops. Make sure they will contact the Legal Support Teamif you are arrested nd anyone else you want to know that you have been arrested. If the cops grab you and starttrying to use pressure points, wriggle your arms and head as much as possible so they cannot apply pressure in the right place but be careful not to lash out or you could end up with a serious plice assault charge. If you are getting hit or kicked on the ground then protect your head as much as possible with your arms and curl up in a ball. IF YOU SEETHIS HAPPENNING TO SOMEONE TRY TO HELP THEM IF IT IS SAFE FOR YOU TO DO THIS!
If you are arrested then ou may consider goinglimp and refusing to walk. This means that it is harder for the cops to take you to the prison van and it takes up more of their time and effort when they could be arresting other folk. In the police van and at the station always check if other people arrested with you are OK and swop details in case you have to be witnesses for each other.

Legal line to be released on the day...
I didn't realise people actually use the term 'the fash'. I thought that was an Anorak in-joke.

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Re: Glasgow

Post by anders » Thu Nov 12, 2009 21:46

Aye, I also got that yesterday. Slightly intimidating. I do have shinpads, but I don't have a hoodie... - hopefully, I'll still be okay.

I'll probably go along to Glasgow Green at noon instead of ten at St. Enoch's. Closer to home as well. I'm definitely making a day of it with HMHB in the evening and a bit of funny and cheap beer sampling at the Wetherspoons beer festival in between. Anti-fascism, beer and indiepop - sounds like a good day to me...

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