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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by tubby » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:17

Raikkonen is well funny. Whenever it's not going well for him he just can't be bothered anymore and lobs his car into a wall.
This is bad comedy.

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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by Mr Bear » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:45

tubby wrote:Raikkonen is well funny. Whenever it's not going well for him he just can't be bothered anymore and lobs his car into a wall.
I read something over the weekend that reminded me of when Martin Brundle was doing his pit lane chat thing a few years ago, and said to Raikkonen "you were a bit late out on the grid", to which he replied "yeah I was having a shit". Class.

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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by a layer of chips » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:46

There's one cunt I won't miss now that the BBC has it back.

I missed the race. What was the coverage like? Please tell me Brundle isn't on the BBC now.

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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by Mr Bear » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:53

a layer of chips wrote:Please tell me Brundle isn't on the BBC now.
Brundle isn't on the BBC now.

But he actually is.

I only saw qualifying and the highlights but the coverage seems ok. Eddie Jordan and David Coulthard are pretty entertaining, Jonathan Legard is a decent commentator, if a little error prone when he gets excited ("there's a Renault in trouble! It's Alonso! It's Alonso!.... it's Piquet!") and the lad who presents it is pretty anonymous. So yeah, overall it's pretty decent. It could be worse than that but still be okay due to there being no adverts though.

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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by Your Funny Uncle » Mon Mar 30, 2009 13:44

Don't forget that "the chain" is back as the title music. This is very important. I decided to get up early and watch a grand prix live for the first time in ages and just that music got the blood flowing and I was no longer groggy...


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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by darvé » Mon Mar 30, 2009 14:07

davo wrote: I still can't see Jenson winning though, pretty much because he's shit.
Sigh, i once had a bet with a good friend of mine that Jenson would win at least one GP, mostly based on Olivier Panis winning Monaco 96 in the rain because pretty much everyone else crashed out. The week after i made the bet Jenson won in Hungary and i thought i'd take the safe option and not go double or quits.

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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by noodlé » Mon Mar 30, 2009 14:15

Mr Bear wrote:
a layer of chips wrote:Eddie Jordan and David Coulthard are pretty entertaining,
yes. mainly because they don't appear to like each other all that much.

the main problem with the coverage was the lack of adverts. when i get up that early on a sunday i want regular cups of tea, and i like it when some tv dudes help me figure out when to make them.

it was a corking gp though... qualifying was ace, and the race was ace (even though 1st position was never much in doubt). wonder how many races it'll be until all the other teams have got their rear thingamybobs set up like brawn et al. presumably not until they get to europe.
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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by noodlé » Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:42

so hamilton has now been disqualified for, it seems, being a little bit evasive.

if he/maclaren really tried to fib their throgh a sterwards enquiry then they're fucking idiots. but why would they do something knowingly dodgy knowing that the fia have access to all the radio conversations and electronic data? they're not that stupid.

the rules are muddy, and the fia are known to hammer down on teams for tiny infringements or slight forays into the grey areas. well, teams other than ferrari anyway, so it's hardly surprising that teams and drivers don't know what they should be saying in these investigations. surely there was a simple misunderstanding between the teams/drivers on sunday. if trulli went off because he was driving irresponsibly behind the safety car then he should be booted out for that. if it was just 'one of those things' then why not give trulli the third place that his performance merited, and give hamilton the fourth place he earned? the hamilton/maclaren withhunt is getting tedious.
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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by tubby » Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:51

I was just about to pop in and post about this. I've read through the article about it on the BBC site about 5 times already and I still can't quite work it all out. Surely the worst they should've done would've been to demote Hamilton to 4th?

Unless McClaren outright lied to the stewards, which I doubt they did because they must all have logs and tracking systems in place for all cars at all times.
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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by noodlé » Thu Apr 02, 2009 13:17

tubby wrote:I was just about to pop in and post about this. I've read through the article about it on the BBC site about 5 times already and I still can't quite work it all out. Surely the worst they should've done would've been to demote Hamilton to 4th?

Unless McClaren outright lied to the stewards, which I doubt they did because they must all have logs and tracking systems in place for all cars at all times.
but mclaren aren't going to appeal. despite thinking they didn't really do anything wrong. can they just not be arsed with going into battle yet again, especially for points they never thought they'd win anyway, or is someone hiding something?
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Post by Gordon » Thu Apr 02, 2009 13:24

Has anyone ever won an appeal? Don't they sometimes get punished for appealing...?
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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by Big Nose » Thu Apr 02, 2009 14:58

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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by Gordon » Thu Apr 02, 2009 15:09

That clears that up.
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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by noodlé » Thu Apr 02, 2009 15:31

Gordon wrote:Has anyone ever won an appeal? Don't they sometimes get punished for appealing...?
ferrari once appealed that all the other people were driving too fast and it wasn't fair. i think they won that one.
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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by Linz » Thu Apr 02, 2009 17:53

tubby wrote:I was just about to pop in and post about this. I've read through the article about it on the BBC site about 5 times already and I still can't quite work it all out. Surely the worst they should've done would've been to demote Hamilton to 4th?

Unless McClaren outright lied to the stewards, which I doubt they did because they must all have logs and tracking systems in place for all cars at all times.

I'm with you on that - I can't really work out whats gone on - would someone who does please explain it in English to me!

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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by noodlé » Thu Apr 02, 2009 19:34

Linz wrote:
tubby wrote:I was just about to pop in and post about this. I've read through the article about it on the BBC site about 5 times already and I still can't quite work it all out. Surely the worst they should've done would've been to demote Hamilton to 4th?

Unless McClaren outright lied to the stewards, which I doubt they did because they must all have logs and tracking systems in place for all cars at all times.

I'm with you on that - I can't really work out whats gone on - would someone who does please explain it in English to me!

the official line is that in the post-race enquiry, the stewards asked hamilton if he'd deliberately let trulli overtake him, and he said no. however, he'd previously given a media interview saying he had allowed trulli past, and the team radio had him being instructed to let trulli past by mclaren.

if that's how it went down, he's an idiot and deserves to be disqualified on the grounds that he's an idiot. he's also a git for sitting back and letting trulli take the rap. but it seems that lewis was entitled ot hold the third place.. and had he known that then he'd never have let trulli back, and the result would have stood. having realised the error, they were economical with the truth.

so the whole thing boils down to murky rules and a ruling body determined to make things as difficult as possible for certain teams. mclaren sought a clear ruling from someone, during the race, about whether hamilton had to let trulli go by. they didn't get it, presumably toyota got nothing either. so at the end of the race there were two drivers and teams not knowing if they'd come third, fourth or not at all. that's pretty shitty and the right thing to do was clarify the rules and let the racing result stand.
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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by Linz » Thu Apr 02, 2009 21:01

Thanks for putting that in English for me! love F1 but find all of that kind of stuff baffling and annoying!

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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by newtoys » Tue Apr 14, 2009 21:45

Decision due tomorrow is it? I'm praying it'll all just blow over...

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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by Gordon » Wed Apr 15, 2009 18:22

There we go. Brawn wins.

I've been way out of the F1 loop for about, oooh, 9 years... If a race is finished early and half-points are awarded, will the win count as half a win?
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Re: Formula 1/Motorsports

Post by Gordon » Wed Apr 15, 2009 18:24

Oh. Wackypedia tells me that the "most wins" rule wasn't introduced this year. That sucks...
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