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Re: Doctor Who

Post by linus » Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:48 pm

isn't the likelihood that she'll be a completely different character? possibly one that's related to dalek woman but not actually the same one... that seems to be the chat elsewhere

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Re: Doctor Who

Post by Cloudy Cat » Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:34 am

I loved Dr.Who when I was a nipper. Jon Pertwee was my first encounter with a Doctor. I think it reached its peak with Tom Baker and then gently slid downhill after that.

What I liked about the early doctors (Troughton, Hartnell, Pertwee) was their frailty. They looked like they would end up in A & E after an encounter with a plastic bag full of soap suds.

Also why do we need 45 minute shows. Especially for the American market I suspect. 30 minute episodes with a story that runs over four episodes seems perfect to me.

I've seen about a dozen episodes since the Doctor's reincarnation. Oh the effects are great but I find myself getting nostalgic for cardboard rocks and monsters made out of unwashed carpets.

I have to admit that I watch it now mainly to see Amy Pond. A tall redhead, that's my perfect woman. It would be too much to ask that Miss Gillan would be into C86/punk/toytown psych/diy post punk/powerpop/indiepop. I'm sure she'd like the Beatles though. If she didn't like any of the aforementioned or didn't read several books a month the relationship would go nowhere. And anyway I'm within the confines of a joyous marriage.

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Re: Doctor Who

Post by tonieee » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:24 am

Cloudy Cat wrote:Also why do we need 45 minute shows. Especially for the American market I suspect. 30 minute episodes with a story that runs over four episodes seems perfect to me.
That's my biggest problem with new Who. Everything seems too crammed in and fast paced and doesn't give time and space for the story to develop. It probably just means I'm getting old though.

But I have got new (to me) old Who to watch - Planet of the Giants came out on DVD recently and it's the only complete story I've never seen. Plus they're doing another animated version of a story with missing episodes next year - hopefully they'll do them all eventually. I'm more excited by all of this than the new series.

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Re: Doctor Who

Post by tonieee » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:33 am

I did quite enjoy Dinosaur Planet/On A Spaceship but one thing really stuck out for me. The fact that he basically executed the bad guy. There's no reason that he couldn't let him live and turn him over to the authorities or maroon him on Dinosaur Planet or something. Doesn't really fit with the character of the Doctor. Except maybe the Seventh Doctor and possibly the Sixth and the First. But it still felt really out of place.

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Post by tompony » Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:00 am

I thought the Dinosaur one was a bit rubbish, apart from Rory's dad who I really enjoyed - the bit where he produced a trowel and the lovely bit at the end with him eating his sandwich while looking out over the Earth. The story just seemed to be all over the place, though. Nowhere near as well paced and plotted as Dinosaur Planet!

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Post by lynsosaurus » Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:13 am

I thought the trowel bit was GENIUS too. Also, there were a few rather good geology gags on the go, which I appreciated as, well, a geologist. I've been a bit disappointed with this series so far, but the preview for the next episode looks promising!

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Post by Jangloid Mark » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:49 pm

tonieee wrote:
Cloudy Cat wrote:But I have got new (to me) old Who to watch - Planet of the Giants came out on DVD recently and it's the only complete story I've never seen. Plus they're doing another animated version of a story with missing episodes next year - hopefully they'll do them all eventually. I'm more excited by all of this than the new series.
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Re: Doctor Who

Post by MJHibbett » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:32 pm

tompony wrote:I thought the Dinosaur one was a bit rubbish, apart from Rory's dad who I really enjoyed - the bit where he produced a trowel and the lovely bit at the end with him eating his sandwich while looking out over the Earth. The story just seemed to be all over the place, though. Nowhere near as well paced and plotted as Dinosaur Planet!
But then, what is? Eh? What is?

I really enjoyed it - it wasn't the most thought provoking but they don't all have to be, and it rollocked along rather happily. As everyone else says tho, Rory's dad was the BEST, everything to do with him was lovely - he's back in episode 4, apparently. Which is nice.

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Re: Doctor Who

Post by Gordon » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:14 am

Re the cubes: So much promise so little payoff. And a whole lot of disbelief suspending required.
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Re: Doctor Who

Post by tompony » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:47 am

I thought this week's episode was great! BUT - I managed to fling my dinner all over the living room floor just as they got to the "explanation" part and missed most of it cleaning up, which was seemingly the disappointing bit. Good work, me.

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Re: Doctor Who

Post by humblebee » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:13 pm

The resolution was a bit sudden, wasn't it? Mind you, isn't it always.

Last series I was getting slightly bored of Who and not expecting to be into this one. It's alright though.

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Re: Doctor Who

Post by islandhopper » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:49 pm

It felt strangely like an RTD episode. A good one by those standards though. I have high hopes for next week anyway.

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Re: Doctor Who

Post by Gordon » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:46 am

The wife lady in my house was actually angry. It had a sudden stupid ending and was all weird and smug. The army would have sunk all those cubes in the bottom of the sea, and they sure as hell would have cleared them out of the hospital when people starting getting attacked by them... The cameos were bad and the idea that all the cubes would do something random made no sense. I tuned off after the alien video man came on and nearly punched the screen when there was a line about a cube being a power of three. Was the whole episode building to that?

And the whole thing about them wanting to commit to life by getting full time jobs? Guess what!? As pointed out about 5 minutes later, time travel allows you to go off for a year and still keep your full time job.

And Rory's dad gets worried about the risk to their lives and then says they should go off and continue saving the world? Pleh.
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Re: Doctor Who

Post by tonieee » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:12 am

I did quite enjoy it until the sudden lack of an ending. The old DW fan in me especially liked the reference to the Zygons (one of my favourite DW monsters) though I wish we could have seen them and also UNIT and the Brigs daughter being in it. What were the people in the square mouths for? Did I miss an explanation of them?

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Re: Doctor Who

Post by linus » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:01 am

Gordon wrote:And the whole thing about them wanting to commit to life by getting full time jobs? Guess what!? As pointed out about 5 minutes later, time travel allows you to go off for a year and still keep your full time job.
I think this has been explained though, that they can go off for weeks at a time and return to where they left off but they've still aged in that time (potentially a problem) and as an idea that you could stop your 'real life', go and do all these incredible things but then have to slip back into the normality of your 'real life', that's interesting but it's never fully explored and the impact of incredible things happening to ordinary folk- while apart from some initial panic- is never really fully acknowledged or considered in doctor who world... I think that would be interesting, but doctor who isn't the place for that, it seems

which is a shame, aliens are either a threat- wanting to destroy earth/the doctor/the universe- or are kindly and beneficent (a rather old empire colonial view of 'foreigners'), the cubes could've been just passing through, their motive unclear to begin with, but which would've allowed for the doctor to hang out on earth and see the ponds in their everyday lives (and perhaps be moved/impressed by that) and the 'passing through' thing would've been a neat comment on the doctor and his relationship with his assistants

when I watched doctor who as a kid, I was into the monsters and the weirdness and- as it was the pertwee and baker years- the strangeness of the doctor himself, the assistants were on the periphery (for me) and it was only as I got a little older that I began to notice them a little more, um, eagerly

the other thing I loved was the build up of the threat and the cliffhanger endings

new doctor who can be good at the build up of the threat, the impending peril but is scuppered by not having (regularly) the cliffhangers... stories often seemed rushed to a conclusion and endings often feel tagged on, it seems, with the doctor waving his sonic screwdriver about and making everything alright again and- worse, much worse- there's always some *feelings* and some 'growing and learning'

fuck that, I'm watching doctor who or at least I want to be... this week's episode was more reason not to bother, to give up wishing and hoping I can have that giddy, goofy, creepy, spooky fun telly of my childhood replicated

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Re: Doctor Who

Post by tompony » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:03 am

It sounds to me like more of you should try the "spilling pasta and meatballs all over the carpet with five minutes to go" approach. I can't recommend it highly enough.

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Re: Doctor Who

Post by Gordon » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:34 pm

tompony wrote:It sounds to me like more of you should try the "spilling pasta and meatballs all over the carpet with five minutes to go" approach. I can't recommend it highly enough.
I have something similar called unexpected discovery of anonymous cat vom.

I'm glad no ones too disturbed by my slight rant. I only really know post 2005 Doctor Who, and I do for the most part enjoy it. I even liked that Christmas opera special.
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Re: Doctor Who

Post by Gordon » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:36 pm

tonieee wrote:I did quite enjoy it until the sudden lack of an ending. The old DW fan in me especially liked the reference to the Zygons (one of my favourite DW monsters) though I wish we could have seen them and also UNIT and the Brigs daughter being in it. What were the people in the square mouths for? Did I miss an explanation of them?
They were people controlled by a robot which randomly kidnapped people for no reason. Now how long can you be in cardiac arrest for?
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Re: Doctor Who

Post by Gordon » Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:14 pm

That was much better (aside from "can't go back in time" nonsense). Why doesn't SteMo just write them all. Annoying that we have to wait 'til Christmas even if it's for the new annoying companion.
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Re: Doctor Who

Post by Gordon » Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:39 pm

That was pretty good wasn't it? Especially for A Christmas Special.
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