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I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by humblebee » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:40 am

People who don't get it think Charlie just hates stuff. WRONG. It's called giving a shit. He hates rubbish stuff because he gives a shit.

I watched a repeat of Screenwipe last night which was all about kids' TV. It was from just after Oliver Postgate died (the BBC seems to show every edition of Screenwipe about eight times on various channels; not that I'm complaining) and it ended with a beautiful tribute: measured, insightful, and sensitive to every value that matters. Superb.

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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by a layer of chips » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:58 am

I've grown to like him. I don't think he's a funny as he thinks he is, but never mind. That pastiche he did of Britannia High nearly made me shit myself laughing.

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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by JefCostello » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:11 am

Don't we all?

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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by Gordon » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:49 am

He does have to watch a shitload of bad TV, though, and I imagine go to lots of board meetings and things. I almost don't envy him.
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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by Dan » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:23 pm

Screenwipe's generally good - his Guardian columns seem to be pretty much indistinguishable from one another regardless of what it is he actually thinks he's writing about.

I was reading something the other day (though I can't find it now - so you'll have to take this on trust) to the effect that given how much time he spends talking about the shite that's on TV, his own efforts at writing drama have been pap.

I think what Momus says about him here is generally fair, until he goes and spectacularly misses the point by saying:
But where I really part company with Brooker -- and Britain as a whole -- is on this question of the toxicity of all aspiration. It is emphatically not "far better to just sit here and sneer at the lot of it". My solution is quite the opposite. Get up and go. Go to New York, go to Paris, to Berlin, to Tokyo. Go to places where people believe in something -- art, ambition, food, magnetic levitation trains! -- places where people are doing something. Never lose your hunger for something better, and never fall out of love with yourself and your dreams. Those things will, in themselves, make you attractive. You'll find a mate. You'll never have to holiday alone again.

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Post by Gordon » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:33 pm

I always knew longhaul flights were the solution to the global funk.
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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by barafundle » Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:31 pm

I watched the repeats of Dead Set last week, nice how the real villian was the Big Brother producer rather than the contestants. Wish a bit more had happened though to justify spending three hours on it.

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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by indiansummer » Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:45 am

Eerily, the opportunity has come up. Today's G2 cover screams "PLUS! Your chance to marry Charlie Brooker".

Well, ok, not 'screams'. It's on the bottom of the page. But still.

I want to like him, i really do. i loved Nathan Barley and his Graun columns. But every time i see him on telly i find something about him to be utterly odious... i'm not sure what exactly. But whatever it is, it's very off-putting. I hope i can get past it.

Also, Dead Set was the only thing i was looking forward to on telly last year, and i thought it was pretty disappointing really. The premise of setting it in the Big Brother house was nowhere near as interesting as it seemed to think it was.
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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by a layer of chips » Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:48 am

Is it perhaps because he's really fucking ugly? He looks like a toad with a quiff.

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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by Pardon My Rhythm » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:11 am

a layer of chips wrote:Is it perhaps because he's really fucking ugly? He looks like a toad with a quiff.
He is, isn't he? I had a crush on him for ages and recently it's wained somewhat. It must be the ugly thing. Or maybe I just like happy boys these days.
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Post by linus » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:08 am

I loved 'dead set'... well, love may be a bit strong... but I watched it twice in the space of 24 hours and I thought the cast was uniformly rather good, the jokes were spot on and the splatter was probably the limit they could get away with on telly- by splatter I do indeed mean the loud wet shitting into a waste paper basket as well as all the gutmunching and bloody arterial pissing

it had andy nyman in it, for fucksakes, as patrick the producer and he's fucking ace, and with no irony at all I thought 'dead set' was enjoyable as 'severance' which nyman was also in

I'm always a bit sceptical about hero worshipping anyone as nobody's ever 100% perfect all fo the time (although I do give it a bloody good go) but I think brooker's a rather splendid and erudite chap who does really give a shit

giving a shit is virtually absent from all other telly... apart from the recent anne frank which also had some onscreen bin pooing in (not as wet or as noisy though) so hat's off and pip pip

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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by indiansummer » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:16 am

Yeh, i thought the jokes in Dead Set were pretty weak, to be honest. Fair enough if you enjoyed it; i just thought it was disappointing. And slow. The splatter levels were fine - no complaints there - but i was expecting something amazing and was a bit underwhelmed with the results.

I agree that he gives a shit, and he's pretty spot on with his opinions. I like him in print! And, as i say, i've no idea what it is about watching the man hisself on telly that makes me instinctively dislike him. I'm trying to get past it (unsuccessfully at present).
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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by timahall » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:58 pm

I seriously think Nathan Barley was about the worst thing in the history of television.

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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by Richard » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:39 pm

The man Green from Sheffield is right. He's, probably fairly to an extent, got a reputation for being a hater, but he talks about stuff with hefty amounts of passion and sincerity, whether it be something he loves or hates. It's quite refreshing, everybody else on telly seems to bottle it when expressing themselves.

I approve of him greatly because he regularly continues to echo (not form) my views with eeire consistancy. He's also chuffing hilarious. Some of the Screenwipe stuff that takes a swipe at the media and life in the media, etc... should totally be shown in schools.

Here's one of my favourite Screenwipe moments from the 1st season...



Nathan Barley was rubbish though.

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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by islandhopper » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:02 am

It was a bit strange that Charlie was talking about marriage in the G2 today.

Anyway, the TV Go Home website is still up in its entirety so everybody should spend a few hours of their time with that. I doubt it's still available, but the book was great as well

Here's a random edition
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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by indiansummer » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:46 am

timahall wrote:I seriously think Nathan Barley was about the worst thing in the history of television.
Really? Well, fair enough, i guess. I thought it was gonna be a really snidey 'let's laugh at the scenesters'-type show, and i suppose it was to some extent. But even the characters who were supposed to be 'above' the Shoreditchy daftness ended up looking ridiculous. I just thought it was good satire; constantly twisting your sympathies and your scorn. That said, i knew a few people who were very disappointed on first viewing. Pretty much all of whom have later told me that it benefits from repeated viewing. So there you go.
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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by Mr Bear » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:59 am

I really liked Nathan Barley, personally. I just think it was really well done, but it definitely is one that benefits from repeated viewing - it's weird how a line or the facial expression someone pulls can not really register at first but then the second or third time it's suddenly brilliant.

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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by indiansummer » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:11 am

Mr Bear wrote:I really liked Nathan Barley, personally. I just think it was really well done, but it definitely is one that benefits from repeated viewing - it's weird how a line or the facial expression someone pulls can not really register at first but then the second or third time it's suddenly brilliant.
Definitely. There's a lot more to it than just ironic catchphrases and sneering at scenesters.
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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by bonjour_tristesse » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:16 am

I quite liked his column this week..and I agree I find him better in print, mainly cos he looks such a smug arse in his program, though Screenwipe is usually pretty good. I preferred his columns when there was the picture of the yellow blob he used to represent himself before they revealed what he truly looked like!

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Re: I want to marry Charlie Brooker

Post by frogblast » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:09 pm

indiansummer wrote:But every time i see him on telly i find something about him to be utterly odious
maybe your brain has been unable to purge the memories of all the other fine, fine programming his production company has been responsible for:

8 Out of 10 Cats
FAQ U
Nathan Barley
Space Cadets
Spoons
The Law Of The Playground
Unnovations
Would I Lie To You
The Wall
CelebAir
Dead Set
Sun like honey on the floor,
Warm as the steps by our back door.

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