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Re: Mad Men

Post by linus » Tue Jun 12, 2012 07:09

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hmm... I agree about her not being much of an actress (that line from her mother, something about the problem with being artistic but having no ability- ouch!), the tv ad gig and that ludicrous outfit all suggest she's become pretty much a model just like betty and when he was he watching that film reel it was like he was appreciating more her beauty- as a commodity?- rather than being blown away by her acting chops... but, yeh, his essential (to him) 'don-ness' is so sort of glib and superficial that ending does seem more like the film reel of himself he keeps in his head marked 'don draper' than him getting up to hi-jinks... yet... as for using the tooth as an excuse not to sleep with her, I think his tooth did hurt and that was messing with his mojo, as were her reducing herself to kept slut at home for him... that's one of his more appealling 'flaws', he does have a certain respect for women in his life often despite himself... I dunno, I don't really want don to just go back to being the lizardy lothario picking up girls in bars in the next series (was he ever that?), I think what I like about mad men that's so rare is the subtlety of it, the nuances interspersed with occassional acts of mayhem... I think it's very good about the potency/impotency of the myth of maleness (if I can term it like that) and it's effect on the women that fall into it's orbit... wow, I sound like one of those arseholes on the guardian tv blog, but I know what I mean...

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Re: Mad Men

Post by squirrelboutique » Sun Jun 02, 2013 21:28

Here you go, Chris! I figured someone must have mentioned Don Draper at least once, so searching for Draper helped me find this thread.

Here's a Season 6 spoiler:
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I'm worried something horrible is going to happen to someone, maybe Megan. There have been so many hints at violent crime and Abe's two stabbings. Those wailing sirens in the background as Don and Megan talked on the balcony last episode were loud enough to have me looking out the window, too. And now I've just read that the star shirt Megan was wearing is the same design as one Sharon Tate was wearing.

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Re: Mad Men

Post by Gordon » Tue Jun 04, 2013 15:08

Maybe you could send me a pm if anything like that happens. After game of thrones not sure my wife could take it...
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Re: Mad Men

Post by this clump of trees » Sun Jun 09, 2013 22:07

kinda funny abe described himself and peggy as "pioneers" (of gentrification)

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Re: Mad Men

Post by linus » Tue Apr 15, 2014 23:15

first episode of the new- and final- season (can't believe I'm using the term 'season' but when in rome...) was everything I hoped it would be and more
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really enjoyed the guest appearance by neve campbell; roger coming to, naked, in what seemed to be the snoozing leftovers of a drugs-fuelled orgy; ken's eyepatch; joan's attempts to secure the agency business with her wile and wits; freddy and don teaming up; megan's winning but possibly creepy new agent and...

going back to one of squibooty's spoiler's above, still have that lingering suspicion that something awful is going to happen to megan now she's living up in that cabin in the hills, surrounded by pine trees and wolves (I'm presuming they're wolves), 'are you sure you don’t want to move to a more populated area?', asks don... if megan's moved to benedict canyon or thereabouts (my geography's not so good, someone may want to put me right) and it's 1969, almost easter, then the tate-labianca murders take place in august... ominous dot dot dot

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Re: Mad Men

Post by alongwaltz » Tue Apr 22, 2014 16:58

I don't know if I'm supposed to use a spoiler thing but I guess I will:
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I like how they've been setting up Lou and Jim trying to take over the company. They pushed Don out and in the first episode they started working on Peggy. Now this week they went after Roger, Pete, and Dawn. Ted knows they're employing the "with us or against us" approach and tried to help Pete by telling him to keep quiet and roll with things during the phone conference. Bob Benson's clearly already in their pocket. They also realized that Joan has influence over all the secretaries and women in the office so now they're trying to pull her over to their side, although that will probably be their downfall as Joan's more loyal and intelligent than they give her credit for. (Since they're all sexist and racist of course they're going to underestimate Joan and Dawn.)

Also Sally's line in the restaurant, "I'm so many people," was terrific and essentially the synopsis of the entire show.

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Re: Mad Men

Post by linus » Tue Apr 22, 2014 18:30

alongwaltz wrote:I don't know if I'm supposed to use a spoiler thing but I guess I will:
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I like how they've been setting up Lou and Jim trying to take over the company. They pushed Don out and in the first episode they started working on Peggy. Now this week they went after Roger, Pete, and Dawn. Ted knows they're employing the "with us or against us" approach and tried to help Pete by telling him to keep quiet and roll with things during the phone conference. Bob Benson's clearly already in their pocket. They also realized that Joan has influence over all the secretaries and women in the office so now they're trying to pull her over to their side, although that will probably be their downfall as Joan's more loyal and intelligent than they give her credit for. (Since they're all sexist and racist of course they're going to underestimate Joan and Dawn.)

Also Sally's line in the restaurant, "I'm so many people," was terrific and essentially the synopsis of the entire show.
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I really enjoyed this episode and I agree about the brokering for control of the company and how the SCDP team are being shifted out of that control... also dug shirley and dawn and agree about joan's new role and how that might come back to bite ted... especially as joan seems like she'll eclipse roger as the series progresses, because she's got the wits and the wiles and roger is kind of dissolute... I hope there's more of shirley and dawn... it was super awkward what happened with peggy but then she's become so unaware, this kind of underlined that... also dug how thing's are thawing between don and sally, and how don is benefiting more... ultimately and I may be over-reaching but in respect of sexism and racism I felt that what was at play was battles along class lines, class lines with sexism and racism endemic at their core, it was a socialist message in a show about white male privilege and shiny commerce... but, as I say, possibly I'm overreaching there...

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