A thread about putting on DIY gigs

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A thread about putting on DIY gigs

Post by humblebee » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:38

If I ask the Deirdres to play my Christmas popshow on 2 December, would people still come, even though they'll have just played at Christmas Twee the night before?

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Post by a layer of chips » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:44

Absolutely!

I'd watch them every night of the week.

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Post by humblebee » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:55

Can you PM me some contact gubbins for them then please Sam?

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Post by caramarydaisy » Wed Oct 24, 2007 13:50

who else you gonna get petus?

if you need a hand with owt let me know :)
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Post by humblebee » Wed Oct 24, 2007 13:55

Ta! Oooh... where should I go and put posters and email and stuff? You seem to know all the best places for that!

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Post by caramarydaisy » Wed Oct 24, 2007 14:05

ill be promoting the dec 1 coughs and sneezes, so if youve got a spare afternoon mid november you can come around with me!
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Post by soft revolution » Sat Nov 10, 2007 13:57

How long should you leave it between asking a band to play a gig, them saying they'll check with the rest of the band, and then not getting back to you.

I asked a band about a month ago, got an initial reply but nothing since despite a reminder message about a fortnight ago.

Usually I'd be cool waiting a bit but the only times when bands have done this before they're dropped us in it and we've had to find a band at short notice or I've noticed that they've booked another gig on the same weekend and havent had the decency to tell us that they can't do it.
And by me, I mean, Flexo.

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Post by Contravene » Sat Nov 10, 2007 14:05

soft revolution wrote:How long should you leave it between asking a band to play a gig, them saying they'll check with the rest of the band, and then not getting back to you.

I asked a band about a month ago, got an initial reply but nothing since despite a reminder message about a fortnight ago.

Usually I'd be cool waiting a bit but the only times when bands have done this before they're dropped us in it and we've had to find a band at short notice or I've noticed that they've booked another gig on the same weekend and havent had the decency to tell us that they can't do it.
I'd given them six hours, it doesn't take long to reply to text messages. If they want to play the gig, they'd get back quick

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Post by soft revolution » Sat Nov 10, 2007 14:08

Contravene wrote:
soft revolution wrote:How long should you leave it between asking a band to play a gig, them saying they'll check with the rest of the band, and then not getting back to you.

I asked a band about a month ago, got an initial reply but nothing since despite a reminder message about a fortnight ago.

Usually I'd be cool waiting a bit but the only times when bands have done this before they're dropped us in it and we've had to find a band at short notice or I've noticed that they've booked another gig on the same weekend and havent had the decency to tell us that they can't do it.
I'd given them six hours, it doesn't take long to reply to text messages. If they want to play the gig, they'd get back quick
It was done by e-mail/myspace - that's generally the only way to get in touch with bands.

I am thinking more and more that if they wanted to play it then they'd have got back.
And by me, I mean, Flexo.

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Post by humblebee » Mon Nov 12, 2007 16:14

Yeah, a month sounds like plenty of time to me Dunc. Move on, I think.

But send them a message that you've moved on, just so they know and they can't turn round later and say, oy, what about our gig?

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Post by crystalball » Mon Nov 12, 2007 16:32

soft revolution wrote:
Contravene wrote: I'd given them six hours, it doesn't take long to reply to text messages. If they want to play the gig, they'd get back quick
It was done by e-mail/myspace - that's generally the only way to get in touch with bands.

I am thinking more and more that if they wanted to play it then they'd have got back.
I always find that it's worth pursuing bands you really want to put on - some people are just really slack with emails. Unless, of course, the show you've asked them to play is around the corner and you have no choice but to drop them. You can always give them a deadline and if they don't get back then you just forget about it and move on.

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Post by humblebee » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:54

I've had an email from a band I've never heard of asking if I can put them on next year when they tour. I've just listened to their stuff and I like it quite a lot, but I'm not sure if I wanna get into putting on bands who approach me out of the blue. I've started doing it so that the bands I love can have a chance to play in Sheffield that they wouldn't otherwise get. Anything more than that, it's gonna be more hassle than I want. I can't be doing more than one popshow a month at the absolute maximum. I'm trying to juggle too much stuff as it is.

But they sound ace. Gah!

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Post by caramarydaisy » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:02

humblebee wrote:I've had an email from a band I've never heard of asking if I can put them on next year when they tour. I've just listened to their stuff and I like it quite a lot, but I'm not sure if I wanna get into putting on bands who approach me out of the blue. I've started doing it so that the bands I love can have a chance to play in Sheffield that they wouldn't otherwise get. Anything more than that, it's gonna be more hassle than I want. I can't be doing more than one popshow a month at the absolute maximum. I'm trying to juggle too much stuff as it is.

But they sound ace. Gah!
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Post by crystalball » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:15

Well, at least you like them. That's a good start. I am completely freaked out by bands who approach Spiral Scratch and are very insistent although their sound has nothing to do with what we do. Anyway, what I am trying to say is, do it if it fits with your plans, that is if their tour dates coincide with a date you were planning to put on a popshow anyway. The problem with bands you don't know is that sometimes they are very unreliable, or they have approached ten other promoters and booked dates with them all. I am not saying the one that approached you did that but it's quite common.

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Post by a layer of chips » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:20

More often than not I felt completely let down by bands that approached me. You do it as a hobby because it's something you love. When you start doing it because you feel you have to is when it stops being fun, in my opinion.

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Post by La-Di-Da » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:27

What Marianthi said.
If it fits in with something your doing, or you can fit something else around it then that should be fine.
You have to be careful though about what guarantee they want, because if they're touring and are from abroad they may want more than you can pay them.

We get so many bands asking for gigs and unless by some coincidence I have a gig that night already I tend not to do anything about it.

That said, I'm a rubbish gig-putter-onner.
You probably shouldn't listen to me!

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Post by Contravene » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:37

So bands are pretty much fucked unless youse as promoters approach them. Hmm.

I'm going to have to change my strategy

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Post by crystalball » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:42

I think that's mostly us here though, Contravene. When you are not making any money from putting on bands (and often not even covering your costs!), it makes sense to put on bands you really want to see yourself so at least you know you are going to have a great time, even if no bugger turns up. That's how I look at it, anyway.

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Post by a layer of chips » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:43

Contravene wrote:So bands are pretty much fucked unless youse as promoters approach them. Hmm.

I'm going to have to change my strategy
You could start by asking The Plimptons to write some good songs.

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Post by La-Di-Da » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:47

Absolutely.
DIY gigs more often than not run at a loss.
If you can turn around at the end of the night and say "Oh well, I really enjoyed the gig and it was totally worth it" then it makes it a little easier.

If we were doing gigs for bands we weren't fussed about AND running at a loss I'm sure we'd have all jacked it in a long time ago.

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