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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by a layer of chips » Thu Mar 13, 2014 13:08

Coming from Vice, though... written by ironic, deeply knowing douchebags, but douchebags all the same.

"Douchebag" is an awful word, isn't it? I blame Neighbours.

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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by linus » Thu Mar 13, 2014 13:16

vice is weird, they do have some good articles there from time to time but it's buried under all this 'vice-ness'... it's probably my age, I'm not really their demographic

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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by indiehorse » Thu Mar 13, 2014 13:19

a layer of chips wrote:Coming from Vice, though... written by ironic, deeply knowing douchebags, but douchebags all the same.
Bits of Vice are certainly ironic, knowing douchebaggery, but they've always had some consistently excellent journalism mixed in there.

(I am in no way influenced by the fact they considered dinosaur trousers a "do")

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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by a layer of chips » Thu Mar 13, 2014 13:22

They're also well known for their outbursts of sexism when it fits into their idea of "cutting edge"...

You were way before Vice on the dinotrousers, surely?

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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by indiehorse » Thu Mar 13, 2014 13:28

a layer of chips wrote:You were way before Vice on the dinotrousers, surely?
I was pictured in the "fashion dos and don't" section wearing said trousers. Don't tell me you missed that issue.

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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by a layer of chips » Thu Mar 13, 2014 13:47

It's the only one I haven't burned in a fit of rage.

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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by noLooking » Thu Mar 13, 2014 14:50

Don't know if this has already turned up on here but, as someone who likes a lot of female fronted bands, I found the attitude of the people referred to in this article by the singer from Joanna Gruesome on Everett True's 'Collapseboard' site astonishing:
http://www.collapseboard.com/music-blog ... ts-boring/
That this is a prevalent view amongst some bands themselves, let alone in the general public (just looking at the comments section below any article on 'Women in Rock' [sorry for the cliche] is a frightening education), is utterly terrifying. This terror is only equaled by the tedium that such people themselves evoke. I can only hope the recent feminist resurgence may provoke a move beyond this, although I don't hold my breath. Is it really that hard to listen to a woman play music without simply ignoring it on that basis?

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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by linus » Wed May 07, 2014 02:07

this looks incredible... how much would it cost me in plane fare to get to orange county?

http://www.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/ ... me-changer

that's a killer line-up anyway you look at it

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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by a layer of chips » Fri May 23, 2014 17:50

http://wreckingshop.com/2014/05/21/feat ... nly-women/

(Feature are playing Nottingham on Saturday 19th July. Tickets from all good newsagents)


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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by stolenwine » Fri May 30, 2014 10:53

i liked this. especially:

"To recognise misogyny for what it is can sometimes be a lot harder than you would think. In the seemingly progressive creative industries, sexism is supposedly a relic from an age old era known only as 'classic rock'. They say:

"We don't do that anymore"

"I support equal rights"

"I did a short course on second wave feminism in university"

Yeah ... that doesn't matter. What matters is what you say and do, not what you've collected around yourself to create the false perception of sainthood. I seriously grow tired of the folk that claim to be progressive but are actually either deeply prejudiced or like to sit on the sidelines as long as they're ok (I'm not sure which I despise most)."

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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by noLooking » Fri Aug 15, 2014 15:37

Haddad suggests that festival line-ups may look more balanced in time: "In terms of bringing on new female, credible pop artists, such as Lorde, Emile Sande and Jessie Ware, we're very much on track. The future holds a lot of promise."
These people are already selling shedloads of records - as did Florence and the Machine, Adele, Beyonce etc a few years since - 'just wait for the new lot to come through' sounds like a shit excuse and pretty unlikely to change anything. Perhaps part of the problem is the perception of who goes to festivals - the organisers would probably say 'NME rock for the NME crowd', yet people like Lorde and Janelle Monáe seem to be liked across the board - the usual anti-pop snobbery. And anyway, if you want indie performers, surely Warpaint and St. Vincent have got sufficient stature to pull that sort of thing off these days.

Thinking this, I had a look below the line, thinking 'I've no doubt they'll be an intelligent debate with some people making all these points and more'. Shows what an optimistic fuckwit I am, especially in the Telegraph.

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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by tweeshirt » Sun Aug 17, 2014 13:25

Rebecka Ahlberg once wrote an article in a fanzine that never got printed. Still, here it is:
http://i58.tinypic.com/2yxqhps.png (page 1)
http://i57.tinypic.com/124zps2.png (page 2)
http://i58.tinypic.com/2coneye.png (page 3)
http://i61.tinypic.com/2lcln2w.png (page 4)
http://i58.tinypic.com/2u5gnie.png (page 5)

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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by noLooking » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:40

Trick Mammoth's Milly Lovelock on being harassed and stereotyped by their (now former) label:
http://astro-children.tumblr.com/post/110522332470/more
Urgh

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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by a layer of chips » Thu Jun 25, 2015 18:07

Not sure the mighty Feature would describe themselves as indiepop, but fuck it. This is all right.

http://featuringfeature.tumblr.com/post ... -the-stage

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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by Trev » Thu Jun 25, 2015 19:07

a layer of chips wrote:Not sure the mighty Feature would describe themselves as indiepop, but fuck it. This is all right.

http://featuringfeature.tumblr.com/post ... -the-stage
I got caught up in this twitter thing - for commenting on one of their tweets. Some of the reactions from that Andy chap are pretty shocking.
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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by noLooking » Thu Jun 25, 2015 19:20

Yeah, it's grim. I was reading this article in The Observer the other day and everything they were saying just smacked of cheap excuses, not enough back catalogue to carry a headline show, blah, festivals are for bands, not enough women in bands, yada. It's bollocks. Like I said up the page, there are loads of successful women in music and the festivals don't want to put them on. That's their bullshit rather than anything else.

I'm reminded of a mock-up poster that was doing the rounds when this was being talked about before.
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I suppose it kinda depends on what you like, but that looks like a pretty shit-hot line up for a major festival to me and certainly far more appealing to me than the run of has-been old wankers who seem to be the acts of choice these days.

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Re: gender equality and indiepop

Post by northernlight » Fri Jun 26, 2015 01:02

Trev wrote:
a layer of chips wrote:Not sure the mighty Feature would describe themselves as indiepop, but fuck it. This is all right.

http://featuringfeature.tumblr.com/post ... -the-stage
I got caught up in this twitter thing - for commenting on one of their tweets. Some of the reactions from that Andy chap are pretty shocking.
Total kudos to Feature for writing that.

I saw the twitter storm. The Andy guy got asked to stop behaving like a prick - and then proceeded to behave completely like a prick. What a toxic presence he is - nasty piece of work.

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