It's terrific by train

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by a layer of chips » Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:53

I fucking love the train journey between Sheffield and Manchester.

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by Pablo » Wed Mar 11, 2009 13:11

It goes through the good places, doesn't it? Like Hope and Edale
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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by a layer of chips » Wed Mar 11, 2009 13:13

Yup!

I also like Stockport, for some reason.

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by annie » Wed Mar 11, 2009 13:25

a layer of chips wrote:I also like Stockport, for some reason.
you're strange. or maybe i've just been to stockport too often.

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by a layer of chips » Wed Mar 11, 2009 13:28

I only like the big train bridge thingy. And that tower. And the floodlights at Edgeley Park.

Isn't the bridge the biggest brick-built bridge in Europe, or something?

Fucking hell, I'm dull.

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by humblebee » Wed Mar 11, 2009 13:36

annie wrote:
a layer of chips wrote:I also like Stockport, for some reason.
you're strange. or maybe i've just been to stockport too often.
Stockport has platform zero though!

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by a layer of chips » Wed Mar 11, 2009 13:37

Stockport station has the most depressing shop I've seen at a station. And I've been to Wakefield Westgate.

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by humblebee » Wed Mar 11, 2009 13:39

I know what you mean about the Hope Valley line though Sam - it is rather lovely.

I like it at New Mills with that crazy viaduct and stuff. And the, um, mills.

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by annie » Wed Mar 11, 2009 13:41

a layer of chips wrote:Isn't the bridge the biggest brick-built bridge in Europe, or something?
so they say, but i'm sure i read somewhere once that it's not true. it is nice though. stockport also has a hat museum, but i've never been. i wonder if you can buy nice hats in the gift shop. that would improve the general stockport experience.
humblebee wrote:Stockport has platform zero though!
what can i say, i'm not easily impressed. (ok, it is quite cool.)

i've been on the manchester-sheffield line a couple of time, it's all very pretty. it almost makes up for that fact i only end up going that way when there's no direct trains to london and it'll take bloody forever to get home.

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by a layer of chips » Wed Mar 11, 2009 13:47

humblebee wrote:I know what you mean about the Hope Valley line though Sam - it is rather lovely.

I like it at New Mills with that crazy viaduct and stuff. And the, um, mills.

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That always shits me up around there, because if the train derailed you would almost certainly be plunged to your death. And also, I'm a massive fanny.

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by bocken » Wed Mar 11, 2009 14:22

No frills
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New Mills

Of all the things I regret not doing at university, I think getting a train to New Mills Central and then a train back from New Mills Newtown when they were still using first gen DMUs is the one I regret not doing the most. I probably thought I'd end up stuck there all day or something.

It were great when Midland Mainline used to run from St Pancras to Manchester along the Hope Valley line, 'cos the WCML was crap in those days so the time difference was negligible, the old St Pancras was a really strange station to end up in after leaving 'new' Piccadilly and being used to Euston, the trains were generally empty north of Leicester and you'd get free tea and coffee. The tea and coffee were disgusting, mind, but still.

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by bocken » Thu Mar 12, 2009 23:35

What you can do when you have a relatively small network and a reliable integrated timetable: rail timetable-cum-map of Switzerland - http://www.sma-partner.ch/index.php?opt ... 40&lang=en

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by Martijn » Fri Mar 13, 2009 08:43

Hee! Don't you also need a timetable that's more or less the same every hour? It wouldn't work here if only for that reason.

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Post by crystalball » Wed Mar 18, 2009 15:43

bocken wrote:What you can do when you have a relatively small network and a reliable integrated timetable: rail timetable-cum-map of Switzerland - http://www.sma-partner.ch/index.php?opt ... 40&lang=en
Heh, it's brilliant that it looks like an electronic circuit. I have to say, that's lovely and all that but it's way too neat. I love how complicated timetables are in this country - I'm still struggling to figure them out, so when I get to my train on time, I feel dead clever.

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by Martijn » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:24

crystalball wrote:I love how complicated timetables are in this country - I'm still struggling to figure them out, so when I get to my train on time, I feel dead clever.
That's very true. I used to know about half of the Dutch timetables by heart. Literally. Just because I regularly took trains and because, with the exception of some extra trains during peak hours and some trains not running on evenings/Sundays, the timetable is the same every hour. (They changed all the timetables shortly after I left the country though.) It's very useful if you need to go from A to B, but very boring too. Here I just like to read the timetables and spot trains taking funny routes I had never noticed before. It's even cooler in Germany, where there are some trains zigzagging their way through the country.

I saw a bright yellow train on the Exeter to Plymouth line this morning which said New Measurement Train on it. It didn't look very new, but I got interested so I googled it and it has its own wikipedia page, including a photo of that very train taken a dozen miles down the line. Erm, if you don't find this particularly exciting it means you don't really care about trains. Or that you have a life. Or both.

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by Uncle Ants » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:40

crystalball wrote:Heh, it's brilliant that it looks like an electronic circuit. I have to say, that's lovely and all that but it's way too neat.
It's very elegant and very, very Swiss
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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by susanb » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:46

I got the train to Lancaster from Liverpool last night and it took about 2 hours due to the first train to Wigan being delayed and missing my connection. Then this morning the train I was going to take from Lancaster to Wigan was cancelled and the next one was delayed so it ended up taking me around 2 hours to get back again. That journey should take about 1 hour 10 min. I really wish the trains in the UK were more reliable. I don't mind complicated networks and timetables but it becomes really annoying when delays cause you to miss all of you next connections and because of the idiosyncrasies of the timetables it's almost impossible to work out the next fastest way to get to your destination.
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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by Martijn » Fri Mar 20, 2009 13:06

susanb wrote:I don't mind complicated networks and timetables but it becomes really annoying when delays cause you to miss all of you next connections and because of the idiosyncrasies of the timetables it's almost impossible to work out the next fastest way to get to your destination.
That of course is very true, but sometimes it's kind of cool when you're clevered than the train companies and you catch a train you weren't supposed to catch. Same with ticket prices: a saver return Exeter-Oxford is 12 pounds cheaper if you go via Swindon and split your ticket into two returns to/from Swindon.

Did you fill in a compensation for delays form? I think policies differ between train companies but I've got loads of money back from FGW. More than once they gave me more money back than the original price of my ticket, thus I effectively gained money while sitting in a delayed train (which 9 out of 10 times I don't mind).

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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by susanb » Sun Mar 22, 2009 14:08

Martijn wrote:That of course is very true, but sometimes it's kind of cool when you're clevered than the train companies and you catch a train you weren't supposed to catch. Same with ticket prices: a saver return Exeter-Oxford is 12 pounds cheaper if you go via Swindon and split your ticket into two returns to/from Swindon.

Did you fill in a compensation for delays form? I think policies differ between train companies but I've got loads of money back from FGW. More than once they gave me more money back than the original price of my ticket, thus I effectively gained money while sitting in a delayed train (which 9 out of 10 times I don't mind).
It is cool when you outsmart the train companies. I'm just being contrary, though. I wish for the efficiency of the Dutch and other European train systems when I'm frustrated with delayed and cancelled trains in this country, then when I'm faced with the punctual and efficient Dutch system I get bored and wish it was a bit more complex like the British system.

I've never actually filled in a compensation for delays form. Is it easy to find and fill in? I'm normally using merseyrail, northern, virgin, transpennine and first scotrail. It might be more difficult as my ticket often covers a combination of these.
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Re: It's terrific by train

Post by SophieC » Sun Mar 22, 2009 15:16

it was £64 for a single to london on the morning of april 1st. so i ended up booking nottingham to grantham, grantham to london for £22 instead.

that's a third as much. utterly ridiculous. my letter is being sent to points as view as we type.
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