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Post by darvé » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:46

crystalball wrote:Me again. Started on season 2 of Buffy last night. It's a billion times more interesting that season 1 and a gazillion times sexier and darker. It's going to be hard to do anything else this week.
Marianthi, can i ask, how much do you know about Buffy and what happens? I'm just curious really, what plot development, what 'big bad's, what characters come and go, what each season brings?

When i first watched it i knew quite a bit of what was going to happen and i cant help feel that maybe this detracted from the whole total immersion.

Also, i don't want to give anything away here that you wouldnt know about.. like the last episode i watched when 'character X' 'does that thing' to 'character Y' in Passions.

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Post by crystalball » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:53

Aw! Well, I don't know anything about the plot or the characters at all, hence my crazy enthusiasm. I decided I wasn't going to read about it or go on websites and things until I was well into season 6. I don't even read the DVD back cover blurb.

Feel free to talk about plotlines though because I can look the other way and I don't want to ruin this thread just because I am a massive latecomer.

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Post by darvé » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:58

Thats brilliant, best way to watch it, i'm so excited knowing what happens later and all the good stuff you've got to come!

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Post by let it ride » Mon Jan 21, 2008 13:58

I'm going through all the seasons at the moment, but I'm only at season one. I've also got my professor's book on "the culture of aesthetics" in Buffy to read. They have all the seasons in the uni library, and also Angel if I want to watch that. Awesomeness!

I'm doing a module on Buffy next year. "Televisual Narrative" with that very same Professor. Oh I can't wait!

He's brilliant, he's got a massive cardboard Buffy and an Angel in his office, and somehow I always accidentally address them instead of him when I go there, ha ha!

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Post by darvé » Mon Feb 04, 2008 09:58

I finished rewatching season 2 last week, which meant yesterday afternoon was spent in the company of the first 4 episodes of season 3, not as good i remember, but then it's a big ask to follow the last half of season 2 with anything nearly as good as that.

Also managed to pick up season 4 off ebay for about £13, got my eye on a season 5 which is currently at about £6 too..

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Post by Richard » Mon Feb 04, 2008 15:25

Angel was a bit better than Buffy I reckon. You're in for a treat watching that from the start too!

It's fun watching Cordelia and Wesley gradually change. Wesley is a badass!

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Post by crystalball » Mon Feb 04, 2008 15:37

Richard wrote:Angel was a bit better than Buffy I reckon.
Ooh, controversial.

I am slowly going through season 2 of Buffy. Those two episodes with Kendra ('What's my line?') were brilliant. I loved Kendra's accent: is she from the Ivory Coast? Is she from Venezuela? Is she from Kilmarnock? It's hard to tell.

Last night I watched 'Ted', Mrs Summers' creepy robot boyfriend episode, and apparently I was sitting with my mouth open throughout. The bit where he comes back from the dead and Buffy's mum goes "Oh, hello! I thought you were dead!" was the best.

Do we get to see more of Oz? I like Oz.

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Post by darvé » Mon Feb 04, 2008 15:47

crystalball wrote:
Do we get to see more of Oz? I like Oz.
Yes!
Richard wrote:Angel was a bit better than Buffy I reckon. You're in for a treat watching that from the start too!

It's fun watching Cordelia and Wesley gradually change. Wesley is a badass!
Controversial indeed, Angel is way darker and some of the returning characters (no names mentioned to preserve Crystalball's watching pleasure) are GREAT, as are the new characters.. but Buffy's Buffy, it was the first, the longest, the best.. Easily.

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Post by humblebee » Mon Feb 04, 2008 15:57

I think Angel is more consistently ace. Buffy is the original and all that, so it's the best thing. But the standard never drops in Angel, whereas Buffy has its meh moments. Or something.

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Post by darvé » Mon Feb 04, 2008 16:11

humblebee wrote:I think Angel is more consistently ace. Buffy is the original and all that, so it's the best thing. But the standard never drops in Angel, whereas Buffy has its meh moments. Or something.
True, but then Angel ran for 2 season less.. and, and, and - Pylea was rubbish (aside from Cordy's outfit)

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Post by gloom button » Mon Feb 04, 2008 16:50

davo wrote: True, but then Angel ran for 2 season less.. and, and, and - Pylea was rubbish (aside from Cordy's outfit)
I liked Pylea! Mostly because of how kind of sweet in a sad sort of way Angel was when he realised he could walk in the sunshine, though.
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Post by quaycur » Wed Feb 06, 2008 05:30

I liked Pylea too!

Mostly because I loved Loren.

and Gru


Anyway, has anyone been watching The Sarah Connor Chronicles? It looks like rubbish, but I'm sotemptedtowatchSummerGlau. Hmm.
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Post by darvé » Wed Feb 06, 2008 09:58

quaycur wrote:I liked Pylea too!

Mostly because I loved Loren.

and Gru


Anyway, has anyone been watching The Sarah Connor Chronicles? It looks like rubbish, but I'm sotemptedtowatchSummerGlau. Hmm.
Who was Loren (or is it supposed to be Lorne?) i've not seen Angel for years.

Hmmm, Summer Glau, i havent seen the Sarah Connor Chronicles no, i'd forgotten she was in it.. I always preferred Kayleigh though. It was infuriating watching her and Simon almost getting it together through the whole series, but then i guess it made a nice contrast to Mal and Inara almost getting it together as well.

I really must buy Firefly.

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Re: The Whedonverse

Post by quaycur » Fri Apr 25, 2008 05:22

SWOON! SQUEE!

Seriously, just reading this info about Dollhouseis getting me all hot and bothered:

http://www.afterellen.com/blog/dorothys ... -dollhouse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The Whedonverse

Post by humblebee » Fri Apr 25, 2008 08:52

What does "we imaged a dream cast" mean?

That does look pretty exciting. Eeeeeeee!

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Post by let it ride » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:06

I own the entire DVD collection of Buffy now, and I have my eyes on Angel... I've got Firefly out from the university. It's so sweet that there are two modules taught on Joss Whedon! I'm only doing the first one, on Buffy, as I don't have time to do the other one.

We watch Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles and I actually really like it! I mean I know it's not the most exciting stuff ever, but it's good entertainment, it's not all too predictable, and Summer Glau is awesome! The scene where she did the ballet on her own was just lovely, and Brian Austin Green watched her (he's like robot hater/freedom fighter from the future and doesn't like a robot chillaxin' with them) secretly.

I was surprised to see her in Firefly, I had no idea she had a role there!
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Post by Joe » Thu May 22, 2008 14:54

^ Summer was actually a trained dancer to begin with. Her first acting role was for Joss as a ballarina dancer too, in an episode of Angel. I like her :)

Anyway, has everyone seen the preview of Joss' new show, Dollhouse? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5i0gv_dolls_people" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What do you think? I think it'll be amazing. I'm glad Amy Acker has a role in it too.
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Post by humblebee » Thu May 22, 2008 15:08

Everything looks good from the preview though, dunnit?

Isn't Eliza Dushku in it as well, or did I just dream that? Most of my dreams involve Eliza Dushku in some capacity or another.

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Post by terry » Tue Jun 03, 2008 02:08

humblebee wrote:I think Angel is more consistently ace. Buffy is the original and all that, so it's the best thing. But the standard never drops in Angel, whereas Buffy has its meh moments. Or something.
i'll have to agree as well. angel appeals to a much more mature audience i think. and the themes are much more complex and interesting too i find... i was especially partial to that whole subplot in the last season involving wesley and illyria... truly messed up but so beautiful and perfect... i was so sad they killed off wesley in the end too; he was definitely my favourite character... cordelia also suffered a similarly anti-climactic fate...

is there anyone else on here who *didn't* like the season finale of buffy, or for that matter, the last two seasons of the show? i think i'd have been a lot happier to see the series end after season 5...

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Post by darvé » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:43

terry wrote:is there anyone else on here who *didn't* like the season finale of buffy, or for that matter, the last two seasons of the show? i think i'd have been a lot happier to see the series end after season 5...
I think i might have already said on this thread that Buffy should have finished at the end of season 5, that ending was perfect. Season 6 was enjoyable though, and it was nice to see the development of Tara and Anya. Season 7 however was a bit desperate, it lost its way really and the ending all seemed a little too convenient and easy.

I'll always prefer Buffy over Angel, as i like my TV light and easy to watch, but everything you wrote about Angel is spot on. I need to get the DVD's and rewatch that.
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